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Salomon Scream 10 Hots with Pilot 912

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I bought last year's version of this ski and am mostly satisfied after a thorough Christmas try-out at Alta (the best) over 7 days skiing in everything from icy-crusty to between-the-trees-crud to 12" of fresh pow. For reference I'm 6'3" 220 lbs (1,87m and 100 kg) and a former instructor in my mid 40's, with all but 3 of those years spent on skis.

The ski is best in tight fall line turns and big sweeping GS style turns on groomed slopes. It excels on hard pack and icy conditions, and for the most part skiis like a traditional slalom cut ski. It's so quick on the edges in these types of conditions that it does most of the work for you. It is also stiff enough to blast through most crud with ease, although I did not get into anything chunkier than 6 inches of cut up and refrozen.

It works well in up to a foot of powder as long as you are doing the old style sit-back-and-pop-the tip turns as opposed to the new float-on-top (fat twintip) style of powder skiing. (I demo'ed a pair of fat twintips one day while on the trip, but that is another story.)

The ski does not do well in bumps as they are too stiff in the tails. You can force them through but they like to kick you on the backside, and it is not fun. Of course the stiff tails are great for putting on the brakes in the big GS turns on icy stuff, so this is the type of compromise that ski manufacturers have to make.

The ski also has problems with cruising at 30 mph plus as the side cut tends to make things a little twitchy (these things just want to carve). Of course I still have my Atomic 207 GS long boards, and there is nothing that will hold at speed like those.

My issues might have been resolved by buying a shorter ski (I got the 187's) or may also have been fixed with the xtra hot version which I understand is a little more flexible in the tail.

In summary don't believe the all-mountain "freeride" hype. This is a ski that does many things, but not everything, well.

On the other hand, if I was skiing mostly eastern hard pack, I might think these boards were near perfect.
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You should look into the X-Hot in a shorter length. I have the X-Hot in a 175cm length. I am 5' 11", 180#. I've found the X-Hot to be an absolute blast in moguls. They are fat enough to slop around but agile enough to carve a quick turn. Their tip is a bit softer than the rest of the ski which makes them somewhat forgiving.
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You tried twin tips, huh? Let's hear about "that's another story". Curious with your wealth of experience how you found TT's.
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Here's a mini review from another thread on the ski I demo'ed, the Salomon Space Frame 1080:

Originally Posted by viking kaj
I recently demo'ed the Salomon Spaceframe 1080 (also a twin tip park ski) on a medium powder day after having read some posts and thinking that as a softer ski it would work well in powder.

It was good, but not great, in powder, at least at lower speeds. It skiied like a snow shoe floating on top, not sinking in.

On the otherhand, it was the most totally amazing bump ski I have ever been on. With the flexible tails and the twin tips (designed to land the backward) all you had to do was lean back and pop the tips. It was like being spring loaded, the ski would pull you out of anything including crossed tips. And my 40 year old knees were just fine at the end of the day when I am usually hurting after multiple bump runs because the skiis absorbed most of the shock.

It was also an extremely stable platform at low speeds and worked well in narrow chutes because you could walk the edges around into the next turn.

But it could'nt carve worth a schnitz (again, think snow shoes) and was just not fun at high speeds (think wooden snow shoes).

By the way, my daughter who is a begining expert (class F plus and advancing rapidly) demo'ed the 1080's as well and just loved them on powder and in the chutes, probably due to the stability factor.
I came away from the demo convinced that these were not the right skis for me because I needed something with a little better all mountain performance profile.

I have since sprung for a pair of Dynastar Little Big Fats in a 168, which are a directional twin tip. They are supposedly the precursor to the Dynastar Legend 8800's and a little stiffer in the tail than the 1080's (more like the Pocket Rocket) so they should be pretty good for powder & all mountain and not bad in the bumps.

I also picked up a pair of the Volant FB's which have gotten great reviews elsewhere on the site. They are also a directional twin tip, pretty fat, and are supposed to be a dream in powder and crud, very stable.

I'm waiting to ski these now and will get back with a report soon.
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