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post #61 of 78
Oh, one more thing... ryan, you're always with perfect wit. I truly miss that. Nice to see you are still here. Any plans to come to out this way again?

Okay, now y'all can berate me. Ooooh, I can't wait ...please don't disappoint me. Damn, I wish Wacko were here! Is Harry the new Wacko? He's kinda spicy!:

Okay I'm all done being bad ...back to work.
post #62 of 78
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Originally Posted by Marty
do I need to take lessons "in bounds" before i go BC in my randonee skis for a day with a guide?
I think you'll be fine without the lesson. But of course in fine Epic fashion, I highly recommend all the instructors here. They are a fine group and very skilled in their craft.

Poor guy, no one ever answered this question for him.
post #63 of 78
i bet Thatsagirl could get herself to the correct Camp Hale coffee stop.

(Mr. Pinhed is a heckuva guy. He'll even stop at the Starbucks just outta Beaver Creek.

If you're cute.)
post #64 of 78
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Originally Posted by ryan
i bet Thatsagirl could get herself to the correct Camp Hale coffee stop.

(Mr. Pinhed is a heckuva guy. He'll even stop at the Starbucks just outta Beaver Creek.

If you're cute.)
you betcha.

thatsagirl, you like vanilla lattes, mochaccinos, you name it girl i'm buying!
post #65 of 78
PinHed, I love you.

expert class XC is fitness city, man. most of my "epic ride" friends are former XC expert, semi-pro and/or pro XC racers. they usually beat the living shyte out of me. but they are kind, and wait for me at the tops of long brutal climbs. I'm doing the Squamish Test of Metal this year, and I'm doing it as part of the Knolly Bikes team -- all of us on V-Tachs (www.knollybikes.com) so I have to be fit, as my V-Tach won't be much lighter than 38 lbs.
post #66 of 78
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Originally Posted by gonzostrike
V-Tach won't be much lighter than 38 lbs.
Whos fit :

Gonzo, you're sandbagging. I know better than to skip my Wheaties if we ride.
post #67 of 78
Cool bike, Gonz. 5th Element and burly linkage. Grrrr.
post #68 of 78
"Knees are less vunerable when the leg muscles are strong" this is not completely true as in a lotof knee injury cases particularily among athletes the quad muscle is the culprit in the injury. an athlete will fight to the last second to maintain control and instead of falling down try and recover, the strength of the muscle overpowers the ligaments tearing or separating them.
for the BEST description of tele read Kristen Ulmers article in SKIER last month, page 54 or 56 iirc
post #69 of 78
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Originally Posted by gonzostrike
PinHed, I love you.

expert class XC is fitness city, man. most of my "epic ride" friends are former XC expert, semi-pro and/or pro XC racers. they usually beat the living shyte out of me. but they are kind, and wait for me at the tops of long brutal climbs. I'm doing the Squamish Test of Metal this year, and I'm doing it as part of the Knolly Bikes team -- all of us on V-Tachs (www.knollybikes.com) so I have to be fit, as my V-Tach won't be much lighter than 38 lbs.

oooh I didn't know you were doing the Test. I'll come out and wave the pom poms.

pinhed. I just was trying to stir s&*t up. I didn't think it'd be quite that easy to get a religion war going.
post #70 of 78
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Originally Posted by waxman
"for the BEST description of tele read Kristen Ulmers article in SKIER last month, page 54 or 56 iirc
First: Kristen Ulmer is a poseur and only dabbles in tele.

Second: Does Kristen Ulmer have the education in biomechanics as they relate to knee injuries? Doubt it.

Third: 9 out of 10 doctors with the Steadman Hawkins clinic profess that tele gear is kind to joints.

Okay I made that third one up.

However, my ortho highly recommends the the tele turn to reduce the incident of injury. This advice is based on a study he conducted over three years of data gathering and theories he sought to confirm. His name is Dr. Raub with the Steadman Hawkins clinic in Vail and Vail/Summit Orthopedics. Check it if you like.

Fourth: It is nearly impossible to weight the tails of the ski with tele gear without going down hard in short order. On alpine gear you can do it for years and never fall. You see, the balance point with tele needs to be spot on in order to stay upright. Bondage bindings (read alpine) allow for a far greater range of fore/aft weight shift without the penalty of falling.

I would submit to you that the wide range of impact absorption with free heel is more forgiving on the body than the lesser range of impact absorption with alpine gear.

But that's just my opinion, I'm not a professional in the science of the body.
post #71 of 78
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Originally Posted by LeeLau
pinhed. I just was trying to stir s&*t up.
fun isn't it?


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Originally Posted by LeeLau
I didn't think it'd be quite that easy to get a religion war going.
religion? :

war? :

c'mon, that's a troll and you know it. Do you think we're stoopid?
post #72 of 78
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Originally Posted by LeeLau
There is nothing in this article that doesn't also apply to alpine skiers. In fact, you can sustain the position that gets you in the danger zone longer with a fixed heel than with free heel.

I'd submit to you that the prolonged position with alpine cancels out the release benefit of alpine bindings vs. the you gonna go down hard quicker on free heel gear but you probably won't release.

Who knows? I don't and neither do you.

I do know that my knees are sexy and strong. A girl who knows sexy and strong told me.
post #73 of 78
how's the back injury, PinHed? all better?
post #74 of 78
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Originally Posted by LeeLau
oooh I didn't know you were doing the Test. I'll come out and wave the pom poms.
yeah Noel sent us all an email about his own entry for this year, and asked if any of us on the first 40 frames wanted to join him. I figured it's a good way to keep me from slacking off this winter, and with my AT gear ready to start skinning I will have some of that cardio to go along with those boring old Kreitlers
post #75 of 78
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Originally Posted by gonzostrike
how's the back injury, PinHed? all better?
good, better, best.

I found a great chiro (no cracks from the anti chiro people please) who helped me with some muscle imbalances and some other stuff. She works on a lot of pro cyclists in these here parts. She'a cute too.

I'm not seeing her anymore though because I'm all better now. She'll get over it. That was a rough period for me, man. Whew!

In short, my Iliopsoas were too tight and was rotating my pelvis such that it took the curvature out of my lumbar. That was the reason for the bad back ...I had lost the natural shock absorbing character that the curvature provides. Then she said my glutes weren't firing well enough because of dominant quads. Brilliant.

Now I have glutes that can rip the lug nut off a tractor trailer wheel and a curved lumbar that soaks up bumps like a 4" travel fox forx. Heh!

Thanks for remembering and asking. You DO have a very human side to you that very few know. You ...you tough guy you.
post #76 of 78
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Originally Posted by gonzostrike
yeah Noel sent us all an email about his own entry for this year, and asked if any of us on the first 40 frames wanted to join him. I figured it's a good way to keep me from slacking off this winter, and with my AT gear ready to start skinning I will have some of that cardio to go along with those boring old Kreitlers
oooh, oooh. I got Kreitlers for xmas. Nice 3" Al drums with poly end caps. I ride between the bed and wall and watch porn dvds. Kidding. I watched Terminal a couple of nights ago ...wicked stupid movie.
post #77 of 78
I own several pairs of different AT bindings...they are all lighter than alpine binding but I prefer my NAXO setup, it is burlier than the others...
post #78 of 78
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Originally Posted by ryan
he'd need some "humor" to sense.

OR, "jay leno just called. he advised to not quit your day job to start telling jokes."

Rul on a "Roll":

http://forums.epicski.com/search.php?searchid=148306

maybe i need a sense of humor to "get" your moronic crack about riding my girlfriend?
Ryan....getting a girlfriend....yup, that was pretty moronic.
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