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bootfitter in NYC area?

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
Any recommendations?
post #2 of 17
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Originally Posted by skiny
Any recommendations?
Depends how far you want to go...give this guy a call...he has helped others I know:

http://www.bootfitters.com/shops/east_NY_NY_USO.htm

There is a SUREFOOT on the UES if you like that philosophy......
Paragon Sports has some competence........
post #3 of 17

Boot fitter NYC

Only a hand full of great boot fitters in NYC. I highly recommend going to Paragon Sports and asking for Paul Damatoe. Paul is a master boot fitter whom I peresonaly work with for a few years back in my NYC days. Not only is he a great boot fitter but he was also bad guy Dr. Hook in the classic movie Slap Shot.

Tell him his old friend Matt J recommended him to you.

Good luck!
post #4 of 17
Skiny

Give Jeff Rich a call at the US Orthotic Center (212) 832-1648. Here is their webpage
http://www.bootfitters.com/shops/east_NY_NY_USO.htm
I have been using the same footbeds for about 10 years @ an average of 40 days per year. My fitting process required three trips to work out the kinks....But it was well worth it. Jeff knows all of the tricks to insure that your dogs are locked in to your boot without any pain.

Once you are dialed in protect your boots with a set of cat-tracks. Some people hate the dentist.....me I shiver during the entire bootfitting process. Ugggh. I love Jeff's work but IMO--It is a lot better when the fitter is right at the mountian. Try skiing with a dozen napkins in your pocket. You can use them to eliminate a pinch point on the hill when you are away form NYC. I hope this was helpful.


Good Luck
post #5 of 17
I agree. Jeff Rich is not only good at what he does, but a nice guy. Significantly better than people you'll find at Paragon, Princeton, or even the suburban shops. Give him a call.
post #6 of 17
I agree, Jeff Rich knows what he is doing. If in New York City you owe it to yourself (and feet) to check him out. My Lange's feel awesome after his work!!
post #7 of 17
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Originally Posted by Berlsy
I agree, Jeff Rich knows what he is doing. If in New York City you owe it to yourself (and feet) to check him out. My Lange's feel awesome after his work!!
The problem with Jeff is he does sell boots. Paul is master fit certified by Jeff and works for a store that sells the gear.

Jeff is best for anyone who has very bad feet.
post #8 of 17
Thread Starter 
Would anyone recommend going to surefoot or is this a waste of money?
post #9 of 17
skiny -
what do you need? Do you know what fit you prefer? Do you have hard to fit feet? Do you ski all over the planet and need the convenience of fittings at any of SF's locations? No one has recommended them so far, and I won't be the first. If they'd had something in stock that would have come remotely close to fitting my narrow feet, and if the kid fitting me hadn't tried to tell me that a MF Lange was a great fit on me, maybe I'd say something good. To give a thumbs up to SF, you'd have to investigate their sole/marketing philosophy, and then agree with it, as someone here has already mentioned.
You haven't posted any info on your foot or skiing. Do you want orthotics made, or just a comfy boot to cruise in? There's plenty of good advice so far. Any of the shops in town carry the usual Salomon, Nordica, Lange etc mid fit boots. No race boots, that I've seen. I'll say, if you've got a narrow dog, you're out of luck. Otherwise, just go in.
post #10 of 17
I will give the nod to Jeff Rich as well, I have attended several Masterfit U's with him and have been very impressed. As far as Surefoot I have seen them screw up several pair of boots recently, I know there are horror stories from nearly everwhere, but in my experienence Surefoot is not the true "bootfitting" shop that they make themselves out to be.
post #11 of 17
skiny, I went to Jeff Rich last year. He was very good, but he's expensive. Cost me about $225 for footbeds. he did a nice job on them though, and I'm sure they'll last a decade or more.

He doesn't do as much bootwork as he used to though. He's making more $$ doing orthotics for upscale clientele, like professional tennis stars and the like. Some people have called him a nut or goofball in the past. Ignore that. Jeff actually is a very nice guy, once you engage him in conversation and understand his midtown manhattan sense of humor (think of Woody Allen, maybe : ). He was very good at answering any questions I had, and I thought he was a great guy.

I don't think you could do much better in the NYC area. But be sure to be specific and explain any problems you have. Don't expect him to ask you too much because he is a very busy guy, but he'll do a good job. If you want cheap though, then you'll have to go somewhere where the office space doesn't cost so much to rent.
post #12 of 17

Avoid Jeff Rich at US Orthotics

I wish I could say I had a good experience with this guy, but I can't. He charged me over $500 (yes, $500) for a consultation and footbeds that don't work well, and he gave me a runaround when I brought them back to be adjusted. Perhaps he was was good years ago, but he's definitely not providing a good product now, and his customer service skills are atrocious. While the right foot orthotic works very well, the left foot one fits like it belongs to someone else and lets my foot swim around in the boot. I have black toenails to show for this. When I made an appointment and brought them back to be fixed, he blamed the boot (which fits just fine), and said I'd have to come back some other time in a few weeks when he had time to work on the orthotic. This is after I waited for 45 minutes after my scheduled appointment start time. For $500 I sure as hell should get better service than blaming the boot and a blowoff.
post #13 of 17
In fifteen years I have had owned seven (7) pairs of boots; spent thousands of dollars; and hundreds of hours trying to get the right fit. I learned so much from this experience, that I finally started doing my own bootwork. I built a shop in the basement. It is outfitted with professional and homemade tools, forms, and equipment. Consequently, I consider myself far more knowledgeable about local bootfitters here and around the greater NYC area than the average local skier who buys a one or two boots every decade.

My first choice would be go to Stratton midweek and see any of the staff at Green Mountain Orthotics. They work as a team, and they are the best within 250 miles of NYC. I would buy on the mountain because you want to be able to ski the bootfitter changes right away. If the bootwork doesnt fix your problem, do you want to it fixed in an hour or two or wait another week to have it corrected?. Often bootfitting is trial and error. It requires going back and forth, until the proper combination of adjustments is realized.

I think Jeff Rich is probably the most knowledable technician in the area; however, I would only use him as last resort; e.g. if you have a very difficult fit problem. He is expensive, and maybe you don't need the best orthopedic specialist to get the right fit... maybe you just need a really competent bootfitter.

I know Paul at Paragon, and if you want to buy in the City. He is probably the first person I would try consult.

I mean if you want to spend $300 with Jeff Rich, and then another $500 for boots, why not take a few days off and spend $800 at Stratton, buy boots, get them fitted, and ski for a couple of days?
post #14 of 17
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Originally Posted by gordopost
I mean if you want to spend $300 with Jeff Rich, and then another $500 for boots, why not take a few days off and spend $800 at Stratton, buy boots, get them fitted, and ski for a couple of days?
You know, when skiing at Stratton for a few days is the lower cost alternative, something is seriously overpriced!
post #15 of 17
Take Rt 46 to Rt23 in NJ and go to Heinos in Pequanock, it's easier than going to Stratton. Ask for Greg, actually, call ahead of time www.heinos.net and book an appointment with Greg. He basically handles most of the N-NJ racing types and most of the pros in the area who don't make it up to GMOL at stratton. Excellent bootfitter (masterfit U), very patient, analytical and calculated approach to the fitting process. He can do wonders, he basically re-fit a slightly oversized solly boot (sold by another retailer) to my feet over 3 sessions. Ortho's and alignment included.
They are, also, the only store in the area who will touch my skis for a tune, (the boards came back wrapped in SVTS tape and had thin foam between the bases to stop them from rubbing, a true race tune!) And no I don't work for them/ have any interests with them.
post #16 of 17
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Originally Posted by ts01
You know, when skiing at Stratton for a few days is the lower cost alternative, something is seriously overpriced!
$72 lift tickets at Stratton. Ouch! I can't tell which was gouged worse... my Metrons on the rocks, or the wallet.
post #17 of 17
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Originally Posted by makwendo99
Take Rt 46 to Rt23 in NJ and go to Heinos in Pequanock, it's easier than going to Stratton. Ask for Greg, actually, call ahead of time www.heinos.net and book an appointment with Greg. He basically handles most of the N-NJ racing types and most of the pros in the area who don't make it up to GMOL at stratton. Excellent bootfitter (masterfit U), very patient, analytical and calculated approach to the fitting process. He can do wonders, he basically re-fit a slightly oversized solly boot (sold by another retailer) to my feet over 3 sessions. Ortho's and alignment included.
They are, also, the only store in the area who will touch my skis for a tune, (the boards came back wrapped in SVTS tape and had thin foam between the bases to stop them from rubbing, a true race tune!) And no I don't work for them/ have any interests with them.
I agree that Greg of Heinos in New Jersey is a good bootfitter and you do have to set an appointment. They are open up to 9PM but Greg is not in everyday (I believe he owns the place). Heinos is a 35 to 45 minute drive from the City on a good day. Heinos is between NYC and Vernon Valley so this winter I worked out a system wherein I would pick up my boot on a Friday night from Greg and ski it in Hidden Valley (with the kids) or Mountain Creek (if I cannot avoid it) then let Heinos work out the hot spots and kinks as I pass by Pequanock on on the way back to the city. That system is not as convenient as a mountainside-type of adjustment but it definitely works better than getting your boots adjusted in Princeton skis or in Paragon in NYC.

Another person you may want to consider is Willy of Ski Barn in Route 17 in Paramus. Willy is Ski Barn's best bootfitter and I heard he actually conducts bootfitting classes or sessions to those who want to learn. I understand Greg (of Heinos) actually attended one of Willy's sessions and found it informative. Willy can be very busy too so I recommend you get to Ski barn on a weekday late afternoon. Both Greg and Willy makes custom orthotics between $160 to $180 (which is the same type Paragon makes).

Willy "down-sized" me from an old 2003 Soly 28.5 to a Nordica SM 26.5. Greg went down even further to a Nordica SM 26.0 = both with custom orthotics.

A friend of mine who has been skiing for 30 years got liners and footbeds from Surefoot (in 3rd ave in NYC) and it cost him over $600. He used his old Lange Shell and a year later Surefoot is still adjusting the hot spots in his boots.
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