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Considering adding HUGE POWDER ski to the quiver: thoughts?

post #1 of 24
Thread Starter 
6'2", 185 lbs, skiing for 35 years, very strong

Tahoe area mostly Mt Rose Chutes and trees; sometimes off piste stuff at Heavenly, Alpine, Squaw

I've got the Volkl Explosiv 180cm and Dynastar Skicross 10 178cm. I love, love the Explosive but today in the Chutes (40-55 degree pitch and powder up to my waist in areas) even more float and perhaps softness in a ski might have been fun. Explosiv is 120-95-112 and is amazing, especially when the powder got cut up or is above knee or anything else. So I'm considering/toying with the idea (maybe/ maybe not) of adding in the next few weeks a big powder off piste ski for stupidity and fun's sake.
  • Volkl Gotama 189cm
  • K2 Made N AK 189cm
  • K2 Seth Vicious (? 98mm waist, less sidecut than Pistol)
  • K2 Seth Pistol
  • other?
Pocket Rocket too soft, B3 dimensions too similar to the Explosiv albeit it is much softer
post #2 of 24
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Originally Posted by Jim S
6'2", 185 lbs, skiing for 35 years, very strong

Tahoe area mostly Mt Rose Chutes and trees; sometimes off piste stuff at Heavenly, Alpine, Squaw

I've got the Volkl Explosiv 180cm and Dynastar Skicross 10 178cm. I love, love the Explosive but today in the Chutes (40-55 degree pitch and powder up to my waist in areas) even more float and perhaps softness in a ski might have been fun. Explosiv is 120-95-112 and is amazing, especially when the powder got cut up or is above knee or anything else. So I'm considering/toying with the idea (maybe/ maybe not) of adding in the next few weeks a big powder off piste ski for stupidity and fun's sake.
  • Volkl Gotama 189cm
  • K2 Made N AK 189cm
  • K2 Seth Vicious if I can get it
  • K2 Seth Pistol
  • other?
Pocket Rocket too soft, B3 dimensions too similar to the Explosiv albeit it is much softer
if your looking for a fatty powder-only stick you might want to look at the volant spatula. sure, it looks goofy and you might get made fun of. But it is the best powder ski ever. Its rough on the hard pack, but as a quiver ski its unbeatable and can be had for under $350 on ebay.

duke
post #3 of 24
Agreed on the Spatulas (I've been seeing a lot of them in mag shoots lately, maybe Atomic's new management is having an effect?). The Pistol is a goofy ski, but some people like them a lot.
post #4 of 24
If you're seeking a huge powder ski, doesn't Atomic make a Heli-ski called the Powder Ride that's monster fat? I saw some 180's on ebay a few weeks ago at killer prices.
post #5 of 24
Another vote for the Spatula.

Insanely great powder ski.
post #6 of 24
word from some of the pros who have skied on the Seth Vicious is that they're gonna be worth the wait, but then again the Pistol is a sick ski for nearly anything on the mountain, Though they're the same dimensions as your Explosivs. Right now I'd stick with K2 for anything in the freeride realm- they're truly on top of their game.
post #7 of 24
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Originally Posted by jlb
Agreed on the Spatulas (I've been seeing a lot of them in mag shoots lately, maybe Atomic's new management is having an effect?). The Pistol is a goofy ski, but some people like them a lot.
actually, its because they're dirt cheap and discontinued.
post #8 of 24
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Originally Posted by glint
actually, its because they're dirt cheap and discontinued.
Glint- have you skied them?
post #9 of 24
Get the gotama in 190. If you like the explosive you will love this ski. Same exact shape but wider by 10mm, plus a twin and not as stiff (but stiff enough).
post #10 of 24
I tried my 190 Explosivs out this weekend for the first time...that is a stiff ski, noticibly more so than the 188 G4s I normally ski. I can see where the tight turns are an issue, but man do those puppies float and just power through Sierra "powder".

Gotamas come in a 183...get his year's though, as last year's had sidewall problems which have supposedly been fixed. Wider, but w/ more 'cut; might be quicker.

Sugar Daddies are supposed to be pretty quick for a wide ski.
post #11 of 24
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Originally Posted by Duke
Glint- have you skied them?
nope, heard amazing things though. Just saying it ain't atomics doing, as they're disco'd. I have no powder where I ski, just a pair of powder skis so I can be number one ultra poser guy.

EDIT: duker, is that you? I've been known by schuss at other ill-begotten spots on the uberweb.
post #12 of 24
Ummm...Gotama 190...

...what did you think I was going to say?!!
post #13 of 24
Thread Starter 
I'm confused: stiff will cut through the crud but but for powder you want soft tips for better flotation? I don't understand but that's what the urban legend is.(No pun on the Dynastar line up )

FWIW, I can turn on a freakin' dime on my Explosiv unless I'm on ice. Amazing ski, especially in steeps and chutes.

I tried the Gotatama and Pistol last month and both are great. Both have twin tails which are nice for powder.

Gotama I found easier to carve on the groomers (need to get to and from the chair) than my Explosiv as it has more sidecut and is softer. This year is 10% stiffer than last year's Gotama.

This year's Pistol is still softer and more sidecut than the Gotama.

The Vicious or Made N AK (Maiden, same as last years Big Kahuna) may do the trick as much as the Gotama.
post #14 of 24
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Originally Posted by glint
nope, heard amazing things though. Just saying it ain't atomics doing, as they're disco'd. I have no powder where I ski, just a pair of powder skis so I can be number one ultra poser guy.

EDIT: duker, is that you? I've been known by schuss at other ill-begotten spots on the uberweb.

Yuck, I schun you smelly maggots. Im way cooler than you.
post #15 of 24
"I see that you are only interested in the exceptionally rare..."

ATOMIC BIG DADDYS

BTW, Jim...I love the fact that you went from a < 70-mm waist and now are "toying" with the idea of going over 100-mm...and it's only the first week in January...
post #16 of 24
Atomic Big Daddys


Line Prophets
post #17 of 24
Agree with the Gotama's, but you may also want to give the Fischer Big Stix 106 a try. Good shape, soft shovel and you can usually find some of last years or the year before on e-bay.
post #18 of 24
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Originally Posted by Duke
Yuck, I schun you smelly maggots. Im way cooler than you.
my bromodels make me cool. That's about it though. Wonder how well they'll do on the bunny slope. I shred the mad ropetow gnar.
post #19 of 24
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Bandit Man
"I see that you are only interested in the exceptionally rare..."

ATOMIC BIG DADDYS
Nah, these are all over the place in Reno and Tahoe stores.

Bandit, have you skied your Kahunas yet?

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BTW, Jim...I love the fact that you went from a < 70-mm waist and now are "toying" with the idea of going over 100-mm...and it's only the first week in January...
Baby, I'm loving it. This is the biggest storm the north side of the lake has seen in decades. It's snowing every day or night last week and this week and I'm off from Jan 1 to Jan 8!!! (Well, I will work from home very early in the mornings and at night but I can hit the mountain when the lifts open and leave when they close.)

Going from the 69mm to 94mm waist and bigger shovel and tail of the Explosiv was like going from kissing to getting laid. I would have been really sweating it this weekend on the Dynastar Skicross 10 but with those Explosiv's I was just dancing down the mountain most of the time. In some soft modest bump runs I'd pop a few minor aerials and landing on a big platform is so nice. I really could be fine with the Explosiv forever but the thought of an even bigger ski for our dumps sounds fun. I'd consider the Explosiv in a 190cm but I think variety would keep it even sweeter.
post #20 of 24
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Originally Posted by glint
my bromodels make me cool. That's about it though. Wonder how well they'll do on the bunny slope. I shred the mad ropetow gnar.
I heart the bro's. Ive never felt that core in my entire life as I did on my one run on them
post #21 of 24
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Originally Posted by Jim S
I'm confused: stiff will cut through the crud but but for powder you want soft tips for better flotation?
check this out: http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=20405

it will answer this question
post #22 of 24
If you're going for a specialized powder ski, why not the split-tailed Volkl Sanouk?
post #23 of 24
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jjdow
If you're going for a specialized powder ski, why not the split-tailed Volkl Sanouk?
I don't know why not. Good point.
post #24 of 24
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Originally Posted by Jim S
Nah, these are all over the place in Reno and Tahoe stores.
All the better to pick them up cheap. Pick up last years for $300, pitch the plate and mount with some P14's or 916's. This ski wasn't a big success for Atomic, but its a really good ski.
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