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post #91 of 216
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by str8line
Background:
Male 52 years old, skied 45 yrs. Ex propatrol, college racer. 190lbs. Skiing in Saolomon XWave 10.0. Have had footbeds made by reputable ski shop in Seattle. Have skied boots and footbeds for 1.5 yrs. NO problem when skiing inbounds, great fit throughout boot.

Question:
1. When hiking into the backcountry, even short 150-200' ridge hike, I get what starts as burning sensation under each foot, just behind the ball of the foot, and all the way across (laterally). If I continue hiking, skiing and yoyoing lift I will eventually get very painfull cramping in same location on both feet. If I stop and pull boots off and massage area the pain goes away (10-15 minutes in the lodge of course). I experinced the same thing with my last pair of boots, Tecnica Icons w/ Superfeet footbeds. I believe the custom footbeds I now use are correct, they cradle my foot well when skiing all day in area, it;s adding the hiking to the mix that causes the grief.
What should I do???
Thanks, Jeff!
Your pain could be caused by a number of things. I consider two possibilities most likely. Either you are developing neuromas (a blocking of the nerve pathways which results in a shooting pain) or your Superfeet footbeds are too hard (in my opinion they do not have enough shock absorption for most people).

As a test, try replacing your Superfeet with something with more shock absorption (even the stock footbeds should be ok). If that does not work, you may need to see someone in the medical field.

Good luck,
Jeff
post #92 of 216
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robinzon
Hi Jeff,

I am a 28 y.o male, ski mostly on east coast, expert (diamond/double diamond).
Weight 195lbs, height 6'0" Have high instep regualar to a little wide foot.

1. I have a pair for Rossignol Course KX which I have been skiing for the past 8 years, initially they were a bit too tight but got better esp. last 2 years, but the left boot fell apart literally, as plastic crumpled right under the buckle line?!? I could still ski but the buckles became useless. I liked the stiffness of the boot and very price control, which boot would be similar (this is older Course KX that did not have a removable insert in the tongue)

2. I bought a pair of Tecnica Icon Alu Ultrafit, I had the boot heated so it was custom molded. Yet when I got on the mountain I still feel pressure on my instep??!

3. The icons do indeed respond better laterally but not in the toes like the Course KXs which would require only slight toe pressure. Is this how ICONS are in general or perhaps I need to get used to the boot? Is there a different boot I should consider, I really like having the prcise control of the KXs.

4. any other tips on the Icons? I have lowered the back spoiler to -5, the flex inserts are in place nad the flex is in LOCK positon (since I always skiied Course KX which is a race boot). I have not really adjusted anything esle, I don't think I am bowleged hence did not touch caniting.

Thanks
1. It is possible you might like the Nordica Dobermann Pro 130. I would not guarentee it, however. You could also try one of the Head boots.
2. See #3.
3. The Icons have more heel lift than the Rossi's. It sounds you might want to grind the heels of your footboards down.
4. No other tips for now. Good luck.

Jeff
post #93 of 216
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sekt88
Hi Jeff,

Info: None neccessary.

1. Can you recomend someone in the Münich, Germany that does what you do?

Thanks,

Pierre
Sorry, I do not know of anyone there.

Jeff
post #94 of 216
Thread Starter 
[quote=nicburnham]Hi Jeff--thanks so much for doing this. It's a huge service.

Background: Solidly intermediate female skiier (blue runs all day), mostly East Coast but occasionally get back home to Colorado. I'm 5'7", 150 lbs, with size 9.5-10 feet. I've been skiing (embarrassed to admit) since 1990 or so on rear-entry Nordica 720s. They're not compressed, since I've had 7 years off from skiing and started again this season. Finally broke down and bought new boots last week as I know I'll be skiing a lot more now.

Problem: Bought Nordica Beast 10Ws in a 26.5 after trying on at store with thinnish socks. Bootfitter had me jump on a simulator and wobble around, etc. They felt wonderful in the store. Got to the slopes on Sunday with similar (possibly slightly less thin) socks and was in constant pain. Forefoot numb and toes tingly, and I rubbed my instep raw on both feet. I loosened the boots as much as possible at lunch, but it didn't help.

1. Could this be the socks?
2. Could 26.5 be too small?
3. Can you recommend a bootfitter in the Boston area (I'm west of Boston) who might be helpful?
4. Any other thoughts?
First of all, good job on following the format

1. I do not think it is the socks.
2. I suspect not. I think you need to find someone who can create more room over the top of your foot. Still, maybe it is something else.
3. Greg Hoffman (Green Mountain Orthotic Lab) in Stratton, Vermont is the closest I can think of...
4. Start there.

Good luck,
Jeff
post #95 of 216
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by afrobuckolas
jeff, thanks for taking the time to answer our questions.

background info: upper level advance to expert. ski very fast and very aggressive. 21 year old college student and have been skiing for 14 years. because of new time openings in my schedule i am looking to buy a new pair of boots because of more skiing time available. last 4 years i have been doing season demos on skis. with the size of my feet they only have the grey dalbellos that im sure every ski shop in america carry's (dont know the name of them). Now that i am giong to buy some boots with on a students budget i need some good advice
1) i have a size 13.5-14 foot. its very hard to find a stiff boot to meet my demands with that size of foot. i have been told that i could be fitted into a 29.5 shell. does that sound at all remotely possible?
2)what do you suggest as brand and type for my advanced level? (i have been suggested the nordica speed demons and/or solamon x-wave 10.0's to give you the idea of stiffness i want)
3)the fact that i am also 6'3'' 240, will this weight create packing out early more of a problem?
1. Most companies make size 30 boots, so you do have options. The question is finding them...
2. See #3.
3. Your size means you will have to work a bit to find a stiff enough boot. Unfortunately, stiffer tends to mean pricey. You might do well with one of the high end Nordica's or Salomon's, but you have not mentioned whether your feet are wide, narrow or average. The two brands above work for medium to wide feet.

Good luck,
Jeff
post #96 of 216
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Strider
hi Jeff

background: 5' 11" 185lbs intermediate skier who's looking to doing some tricks and all mountain riding. wide front, high instep, high arch, FAT CALF, just bought a pair of salomon performa 4.0 and moving the top 2 buckles to the widest setting coz it's the only boot that'll fit my calf. my goal is to get a boot that'll last with me until the boot dies, i want to be able to increase in performance with it and have value for money.

problem
the front and top of my foot feels pain after i wear the boot for a while, it could be too small for me, but it gets better the more i wear it around the house.

question
1. will the salomon performa 7.0 last me longer than the 4.0 in terms of skill level wise?
2. should i get the salomon performa 7.0 instead of the 4.0?
3. are there any other boots that might fit my calf?
Strider,

Unfortunately, large calves are very difficult to get into ski boots. Options are definitely limited.

1. The 7.0's should be better.
2. above
3. Next year's Nordica GTS 12 and 10 might be good. Possibly try this year's Nordica Beast.

Good luck,
Jeff
post #97 of 216
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScotsSkier
Jeff/TDK

Good to see some other WRC fans out there. No offence to Marcus and his countrymen but the WRC has not been the same since Colin Macrae lost his drive!!. I can claim the distinction of having competed against him in the 80s when he was starting his career. We were in the same car club and both competing in the Scottish Championship series. I actually sat beside him while he drove my car at a test day.!! Always knew he was good but never dreamt at the the time I was sitting beside a future world champion.

Great choice of car Jeff, my other half bought one after I persuaded her to test it!
TDK6,

That is awesome. Definitely let me know if you are coming to Colorado! Just take it easy on my car...

I think I am rooting for Solberg this year, but I still like Gronholm and Markko Martin.

Jeff
post #98 of 216
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rones
Jeff,

Thanks for this, it's hard to find help like this near me...

Background:
Agressive all around skier/master's racer. Currently on Atomic SL and LT skis, boots are Atomic 9.50 race in a 26. My boots are getting old and the liner has stretched a lot. When trying all race boots available by me, the most comfortable, yet good flex I found was the Atomic tx11 (junior race). Just a fit problem.

Questions:

1- When I got my old boots, I wasn't looking for a 'tighest-fitting' race boot. This time around, when I tried the 25.5, my toes were slightly (not much at all) crunched at the end, the 26 was fine new. Since I'm looking for more performance this time, should I get the smaller boot, and wait for the liner to stretch (can the toe area even be punched out?), or get the larger size and add a thicker insole or risers?

2- If I get the larger size boot, should I buy seperately a liner from an adult race boot with the ability to heat-mold the entire foot?

Thanks again for your time!

Sharona
Sharona,

As much as I love my Atomic Race Techs, I am not a big fan of the Atomic jr boots.

1. It should not be hard to make the 25.5s fit, but it will take a good bootfitter. The question is- can you find one?

2. I would not bother.

Let me know if you want other advice on ski boots. I will need to know your foot shape and ski style.

Jeff
post #99 of 216

Thanks, Jeff!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Bergeron
1. I do not think it is the socks.
2. I suspect not. I think you need to find someone who can create more room over the top of your foot. Still, maybe it is something else.
3. Greg Hoffman (Green Mountain Orthotic Lab) in Stratton, Vermont is the closest I can think of...
4. Start there. Good luck,
Jeff
Thanks, Jeff...your time and your willingness to share your expertise is much appreciated!
post #100 of 216
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SkiGator
Jeff,

Background: New recreational skier, 7 lessons, greens and easy blue groomer trails in the East, 190 lbs, 5' 10", 40 years old, will be out learning/improving skiing with my kids (5 and 3 years old). I have Blizzard XO5s at 163cm on a railflex system. I have flatish, average-width feet (10.5 C) that tend to splay out wider (D) when I put pressure on them. The front of my left foot has a nerve condition called Morton's Neuroma that flairs up painfully when I wear tight shoes -- I am seeing a podiatrist (whose doesn't really have any advice when it comes to ski boots).

Questions:
1. Given my description, do you recommend any particular make/model boot?
2. Nordicas seem to cause the least pain of any of the boots I've tried -- Saloman, Technica. Is going with a little wider boot (like the Nordicas) likely to cause any other problems? such as? Or do you recommend going with a narrower boot and grinding/expanding the area that causes pain?
3. Any thoughts on the fit/features of softboots, like the Smartechs?
4. Do you think I would benefit from a custom footbed (and metatarsal bridge support)? Keep my foot from splaying as badly?
5. Is there any custom footbed system you recommend (the blue foam casts; the vacuum-sealed sand casts; other)? Are they about the same?
6. Any recommended fitter in the Rochester, NY area?

Thanks!

SkiGator
SkiGator,

1. You should do fairly well with most better quality recreational boots.
2. Nordica Beast's could be good.
3. I rarely recommend soft boots.
4. Well made custom footbeds could be a big help.
5. In my opinion, you might want to avoid vaccuum molded footbeds such as Superfeet. You may even need full orthotics.
6. I do not know anyone in that area. You might want to pay Greg Hoffman at Green Mountain Orthotic Labs (Stratton, VT) a visit.

Jeff
post #101 of 216
Quote:
Originally Posted by Strider
hope he comes back soon....
I found out today that my entire ski group from last week went to visit him! I think four women got new boots or some level of fitting done by him. Reckon he's busy...!
post #102 of 216
thanks heaps!
will try my best to make a trip to find you in the future.
post #103 of 216
first thanks ahead of time

background
46 yrs old
ski northeast 50/60 days
ski level- upper inter/advanced
groomers blue/and black
tryin moguls/lessons
height-5'8"
weight-230
boot-technica icon dp 3 years old
liner-hot form/replaced in january 2005 old one were cutting into top of foot.
stock foot beds
hotronics boot heaters"circuit board not foot beds"
heel lifts on both"1/8 inch at most"


questions
1. my boots seem to pack out in toe box on right foot after 3 hours"left foot is not a problem"
and i need to adjust buckles constantly...next day its fine for 3 hours then back to fiddeling with boots. boots have been heated twice at shop allready what can i do to rectify?"yes i know 1 foot is larger than other"

2. on same right foot heel pocket/archilles seem to be lose or more like not not real snug... no heel lift on flex... but if i try and pad out"using layers of duct tape"i get a loss of feeling on bottom of heel"my salomons axe's did same thing to heels of both feet ...shit canned then after 1 season... would like to know if there is a boot i should be trying was going to try the diablos
post #104 of 216
Jeff:

Thanks for agreeing to do this, its been a pretty frustrating experience trying to deal with my sore feet.

Background:

Rossignol Salto boots 26.5, 160 lbs, 5' 9", male age 51, Atomic Metron M-9 157 skis, beginner-intermediate level skier, skis east mainly on-piste

Boots rub both feet on their inner sides, just above and in the middle of both arches, with the problem so bad, that the kid trying to sell me new boots just about fainted when he saw the raw skin on my feet when I showed him my bare feet to try to explain to him where it was hurting. It's the plastic that's digging into the sides of my feet through the liner.

I have been skiing for 3 years but not properly, and have only recently in the last month learned how to properly edge my skis, but that's resulted in increased damage to the inside of my feet. Note that even standing straight while wearing my boots at my ski shop results in the rubbing on the inside of my feet.

I took my Salto's to my ski shop and their boot fitter banged it out - but not enough to solve the problem. Now they are going to heat up the plastic to try to fix the problem but I'm still waiting to see if that works (the store's tech was not confident that it would work).

In the meantime, after getting frustrated with my Salto's, I started boot shopping and tried on all of the following pairs of boots, all of which still rubbed against the same spot:

Atomic C9, T9, CR10, CR+ and B7 boots (tried both 26.5 and 27.0 sizes)

Question:

1. I have a ski trip coming up next week, and wondering if there's any quick fix you can suggest to make my current Salto boots usable for 3 days skiing?

2. I'm still considering new boots (particularly if I need custom orthotics), and wondering if you could recommend any particular manufacturers and/or models whose boots would be less susceptible to rubbing on the inside of my feet?

3. If you feel no new boots would fit any differently in my problem area, could you recommend some boots that you could consider, particularly in the Atomic, Dalbello or Salomon lines which is what the store I bought my skis from sells, if they make anything that's appropriate. If something is better from another manufacturer, then I'd be willing to purchase at another store.

4. Do you know anybody in Ottawa, ON, Canada area you can recommend for boot customization - or if not perhaps somebody within a few hours drive (Lake Placid/Whiteface, Toronto, Montreal).

Thanks for any help and/or suggestions you can provide.
post #105 of 216
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Bergeron
1. It is possible you might like the Nordica Dobermann Pro 130. I would not guarentee it, however. You could also try one of the Head boots.
2. See #3.
3. The Icons have more heel lift than the Rossi's. It sounds you might want to grind the heels of your footboards down.
4. No other tips for now. Good luck.

Jeff
Jeff thanks for the advice.

1. Grind the heels? You mean of the footboard that is in the boot? Well the top is cork the bottom is plastic so I am not sure how muc grinding can be done I already had them ground a bit so that my foot does not hurt so much. I was having a lot of lateral pain on my instep so one of the boot guys at Hunter Mtn ground the footboard and a little of the boot tongue and the shell laterally, I am not sure how much more grinding can be done?

2. Rossi is sending me a pair of Race Pro 9.1 from last year to replace the KXs (for a price of course ~100 or so ). What do you think of them?

3. Any good custom guys in Northern NJ area? (NY ?)

thanks
post #106 of 216
Hi Jeff,

Thank you in advance for this.

Background: expert skier, 6'2, 210 lbs, 30 years old
Style: aggressive, fast, like stiffer flex (hockey player)
Location: mostly Austrian alps

Preferred terrain/snow: hard pack, groomed, crud/powder, trees, bumps

Skis: Head XRC 1100 SW (177), Rossignol Bandit B2 (190)

Current boot: Tecnica Icon (6 years old, never stopped hurting, even though a fitter tried to make it more wider.)

Every boot I have ever worn has given me pain specifically on the outside of my foorfoot. It seems like we don't have any good bootfitter here in Austria at all. Somehow I found this page and hopefully you can help me out. (please)

I am considering buying new shoes. Since we have differnt shoe sizes in Europe, I measured my foot. It's 274 mm long, and my foorfoot is about 114mm wide (EE on skating shoes). I have a high instep, guess average heel width, no calf problems at all and no toe box problems either - since the technica icon never hurted there.
I measured my foot the other day and i had 27.5 almost 28. (it was a salomon measuring table, but i guess it's for any brand.)


I already read a lot of posts and the guy at St. Anton, Arlberg in Austria, let me try the Atomic Widebody (which felt good, but kind of a low shaft compared to the icon), Nodica Beast 12, the Technica Diablo Fire (i liked the hard flex) and the Head S10. But actually I cant say, if they fit, since they always start hurting later.
One week later I tried the atomic widebody topmodell again in 27.5 but it still hurted me on the foorfoot, also the diabolo fire.


Questions:

1. Which boot would you suggest?

2. What do I have to look at, when I am trying them on? I have no idea about fitting.

3. How much do you tighten them when trying on?

4. Should I get a custom liner? (One guy told me this is the best, the other said it used to be good, but now the liners that come with the new shoes are even better)

would be very, very glad for any help.
ciao... marc
post #107 of 216
Jeff,

Thanks in advance for your inputs. My girlfriends looking to solve boot pain
with existing boots and leaning toward new boot prch.

Background: Female Advance skier, not agressive, likes moguls, 140lbs 5'8
Current boots: ~2001 Lange L8, 291mm, ~1.2cm behind foot w/o liner, custom footbed
Current skis: Volant 173 power-Karve, 165 Chubbs.
Location: ski pacnw 25-30 days/year.
Foot notables: womans 8.5 street size, med-narrow foot, high-instep, hammer toes

Problem w/current boots: Toes #2,#3 hit top of liner/shell causing pain after
3-4hrs skiing. Cannot tighten #2 buckle much or get (high) arch pain. Local shop advises
shell too short, no room to blow-out, recommends larger shell/boot ('05 salomon womens
Xwave 7.0 size 25.0 295mm. Didn't carry Xwave(L) 8.0).

Questions:

1. Is the 7.0 series womans Xwave a good choice, or is the liner quality and increased stiffness
of the Xwave 8.0 a better choice.

2. How much will the Xwave 7.0 liner pack-out?

3. Is the stiffness of the Xwave 7.0 sufficeint for her experience level?

4. Any other brands you would recommend given her high instep and need for
toe volume to accommodate hammer toes?

Thanks/Jay
post #108 of 216
Background: female advanced skier, 5'9" 135 lb. Med/narrow (B/Bplus width) feet, high insteps, 9.5 street shoe. Long legs, and while I don't have "skinny calves," I'm not sure they fit the mold of women's lower, wider calves. My calf muscle is pretty high up there.

I'm currently in a 25.5 Atomic CR10W from last year; I like them, and they fit better than anything else I tried, but I'm still having some trouble with two things. First, quite a bit of tightness across my instep, causing pain and numbness. I don't even buckle that buckle. I've had some minor adjustments made, but after a day or two of skiing, the tongue starts pinching again.

The other issue is the top buckles: I have moved the buckles to the tightest position, but after a couple of hours, I still have to crank them down all the way.

1. Are these issues related? (ie, does tightening the top of the boot affect the instep?)

2. Should I have material taken out of the tongue to further accommodate the high instep? Is there any other answer?

3. Is this a decent boot for my type of foot/instep/leg? Any other suggestions?

4. I know I can get the calf issue worked on, but would it ever make sense to try a narrow men's boot to accommodate my thinner ankle and higher calf?

Thanks so much --
post #109 of 216
Hi Jeff,

Thanks in advance! I'm a 21 year old mid-upper intermediate skier (carving on blue / single black no bumps). Weigh 180 lbs, height 5'10", ski in the northeast 99% of the time on piste. I have a pretty average foot except a little flat and slightly wide. Street size (shoe) is 10.5 and have slightly large calves. I tend to be fairly agressive and use more input than I should maybe in my skiing. I started skiing when I was 11 years old but stopped at 14 for whatever reason and have started again this season and I'm making pretty rapid improvements.

I'm looking for a boot that will not kill me after a day of skiing, but that will provide good performance for a few years. I was looking at boots like the Atomic T10/11, Nordica Speedmachine/Beast, Doberman Pro 110/130, Diablo Fire, but a friend suggested I might look at some of the softer plugs also. What is your take on a non expert using a plug for freeskiing if properly fit along with custom footbeds? It seems that the plugs would last longer and maintain their fit better than the consumer versions. If a plug is overkill, do you have any other suggestions on boots to try?

Thanks,
Chris
post #110 of 216

What boots to buy?

Jeff,

Thanks so much for the valuable service you're providing. I personally believe that proper fitting boots are THE most important component to improving one's skiing. I will be looking to pick up new boots in the off-season, and have some questions as to which boots to try. First, some background info:

1. I'm 32 YO, 6'1" tall, 180lbs, in very good shape physically.
2. I am an expert skiier, former instructor, and racer (I race Masters and some league racing in Tahoe). I spend about 90% of my time on-piste, preferring race courses (obviously), steep groomers, and powder when available. I tend to avoid the bumps, as I'm just no longer interested in skiing them.
3. I currently have a pair of Dalbello TRX 8 boots, which I've had to modify in order to achieve a semi-decent fit. Such modifications include the installation of Booster straps, the Eliminator Custom Tongue, and on-going changes to the flex pattern.
4. Desipte these modifications, I still find the boots to be quite "mushy," particularly when making aggressive turns in a race course. In these situations, I tend to find myself immediately out over the tips of my skis, thus losing a good amount of control over the steering of the turn. When I try to hold back a bit, the skis (Atomic SX:11s for GS, SL:11s for Slalom) tend to take off and I end up in the back seat. There is just no middle ground, no matter how many adjustments I make.

WIth these things in mind, coupled with the fact that I have rather narrow feet (11.5B), here are my questions:

1. What boots would you suggest I consider (from a fit standpoint) when looking at options. Based on what I've read, it seems I should check out the Lange Comp 130/120, and the Tecnica Diablo Race boots, as these tend to be lower-volume boots (again, I have narrow feet, and skinny calves). But any suggestions you have, either in addition to these or to the contrary, would be most welcome.
2. From a flex standpoint, should I eliminate any of the above boots from consideration? Are there other race boots I might consider? I would really like to find something much firmer than my Dalbellos, but not something I'll have trouble flexing.

Thanks again for all your help on this board, Jeff. I've learned a tremendous amount just by reading other posts, and would appreciate any advice you can offer regarding my situation.

Thanks again,
Jeff Noland
post #111 of 216

Looking for a Boot fitter

Hi Jeff,

1. Can you recomend anyone in the Bay Area (San Francisco/ San jose) that is a competent boot fitter?

Thx.
post #112 of 216
Quote:
Originally Posted by H2ODog
Hi Jeff,

1. Can you recomend anyone in the Bay Area (San Francisco/ San jose) that is a competent boot fitter?

Thx.
I'd recommend a trip up to Reno to visit Bud Heishman at Snowind. He's here on EpicSki under his real name (click Members List, then find him there).
post #113 of 216

Low Volume Foot Issue

Jeff, I am an advanced skier, age 45 weight about 180 and ski in a Lange 120 Comp FR. My boot was bought as a 2003 leftover The shop said it is a narrow fit version but there seems to be way too much room after six days of skiing for my narrow and low volume feet and i know they do not over the low fit in the 04/05 model line. The shop put in 2mm pads in the forefoot area to take up excessive foot movement and moved all the adjustable buckles in. Since then the forefoot area seems fine, but I have some tweeking that needs to be done in the heal area (just a little extra room).

1. Did Lange really make a narrow fit 120 FR in 2003?
2. Should I have the very slight extra heal room tweaked?
3. Should I start the whole process over with a custom heal bed? (currently have a $40 dollar aftermarket insole)
4. Should I start over with another boot like the Head S12 with the adjustable width insert would better fit the bill?

I would appreciate your thoughts and experience....
post #114 of 216

Nordica Speedmachine

Jeff--- I am:
--6' 1", 210lbs
--Advanced All-Mountain Skier: 8 on the scale
--29.5cm foot, average width, flatter than average
--Ski mainly Michigan, Jackson Hole and Grand Targhee

I tried these Nordicas on this weekend and I found the last shape and shell size (29.5) to be great for my fairly large feet... very snug, yet comfortable for a stiff boot.

I worry a little about the lace-up liner. It seemed to snug well to my feet and I imagine it will be even better after thermo-molding, but...


1) Can you tighten it effectively without pulling the liner out of the shell first, every time you gear up.

2) Is this lace-up liner system durable?

3)What should I expect to spend (approx.) for custom footbeds? I plan to see Performance Zone in Auburn Hills, MI (Masterfit Univ.)

4) Should I wait until I get the footbeds before I have the thermo-molding done?

THANKS.

Hank
post #115 of 216
HH, I know that at least one boot company (Tecnica, IIRC) will not have the lace-up liner next year, because they deemed it overly complex having to take the liner out to lace up each time.

Footbeds can be $100-$200.

Definitely wait to thermo-mold until you get the footbeds built.
post #116 of 216

I have a wide EEE foot, high arch and fat calf.

Hi Jeff,

Background:
My skiing ability is between intermediate and advanced. I ski blues and single black diamonds in New England. I favor short radius turns and tend to pass people. 215 lbs, 5’ 11”. I have a wide EEE foot, high arch and fat calf. My normal shoe size is 10.5. I prefer to have comfort more than performance. My current boots are comfortable old rear entry Norticas.

Questions:
1. Because I prefer comfort, how soft can my boot be considering my weight and skiing style? [or put another way; Where do you think my flex vs stiff boot threshold is?] 80, 90, 100 Etc..?
2. Can you recommend a Manufacturer and boot model for me to try?
3. When trying on boots the top of my foot above the instep is usually the hot spot, what boot has the most volume above the instep? Or is there a fix for this problem?
4. Is the Atomic: B10 or B9 (flex 80) a good choice for me, or is it too soft, or too low volume?
5. The boot I like the best so far is SALOMON PERFORMA 8/W, 27 1/2. Is this a good boot? And is the flex stiff enough for my weight, speed and carving?
6. What is the most important factor affecting boot fit to keep in mind when one has a EEE foot, high arch and fat calves?
7. What kind of pain should tell me that that boot is wrong for me and will not be fixed just by wearing the boots for several days of skiing?

Thank you very much for your help Jeff.
You are greatly appreciated,
Bill
post #117 of 216
Jeff,

First let me say thank you for the great job you are doing here

Background:
Male skier with a narrow foot. My current boot is the Tecnica Icon Race XT. I have a couple of questions about race boots.

Questions:
1.Could you compare the XT to the Atomic Race Tech, Lange RL1, Nordica Dobermann and Salomon X2? What i would like you to tell me is if the XT is at the same level as the other boots. From what i saw on TV, it is still used on the World Cup (Mitja Dragsic of Slovenia placed 8th in the SL at the World Championships and it was the best place for Tecnica in the men's SL although that boot had a bolt in the back to stiffen flex)and you placed it among the other boots mentioned in one of your replies in this thread

2.For free skiing do you think that there is a big difference between these boots? Does one boot have a significant advantage over the others? (my guess is that it should be the fit the most aspect and only at the most highest levels of racing it should be worth considering other aspects.

3. Could you compare the XT to the Race Pro? I am basically interested in two things: how the new boot skis (it's infact a comparison between a consumer model and a plug and i know it's not fair but i just want to know. I can't imagine a consumer boot skiing better than a plug) and also in the stance of the new boot(flatter ramp angle and more forward lean). The XT has a good amount of forward lean and i am interested to know if the new boot has more or less forward lean.


Thanks a lot.
post #118 of 216
Jeff:

4 yr old Icon XRs (80-100 days of use); 5'-10" 160#; Lvl 8; size 9; high instep; narrow heel; normal width forefoot; large ankles; cork footbed.

Liners are packing out; cuff buckles are tightened all the way down and on the second to last notch (last notch when warm).

1. Do you recommend a custom liner; and if so what type should I look at?

2. If I opt for new boots, which ones would you recommend?
post #119 of 216
Background: Level 6 skier (progressing towards 7), currently in Rossignol Soft boots.

1) I like the Rossignol soft boots for fit but I'd like to try a stiffer boot to gain some additional control in turns and speed.

2) I tried Xwave 8's and Lange CRL90s and they seemed too tight on my calves and there wasnt as much toe room as in the Rossignols.

3) Generally speaking I have pretty normal feet proportion-wise

4) Budget: $400 (I would think at this time of year that would be enough)
post #120 of 216
Background: 16 years old, skied since age 2 (lol). Level 9, I race but not incredibly seriously. My left foot is 11-11.5 mid-C width, right is about a 12-12.5, same width. I bought some Lange 130 LFs in a 9.5/27.5, and they were as tight as a race boot should be on the left, but the right was intolerable, too short. I was told by the bootfitters at Basin Ski Shop at Killington that they would have been great if I had gotten a 10, there was just not enough plastic to stretch/grind the right one enough to make it bearable. So I am in the process of selling them and am looking for a race boot (not neccessarily plug, but not opposed to it) to buy.

Questions:
1. What would you reccommend shell wise? I want it to be narrow and tight, I don't care if I need to unbuckle on the lifts or whatever. I'd probably prefer a non-plug, as I don't have the time or resources to visit a bootfitter multiple times to get the fit right.

2. I have been offered a Head RD 96 in another forum, which I tried on at Basin in the size that is being offered. It would need a little work, just an easy grind, but felt good overall. What is your opinion of this boot?

3. I was also offered a T:11, also tried on in a 28, didnt feel as good, but it could be made to work. Please give your opinions on that too.

4. The guy at Basin reccomended a Salomon Course, it felt a little wide to me, but very comftorable. Same deal, opinions please.

Thanks for your time and your service to the ski world.
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