Originally Posted by Gary Dranow
This may already be in here but I don't have time to read through to find this answer.
Background - Master Racer/Coach. I've been in the Dobie 150 for 3 years. I am moving to the new Rossi Plug (I have too). I am getting fit by one of the Rossi techs. Let's just assume I'm a high level racer in the Master ranks (or should be
: ). I am fairly flat, I believe 1/2 degree off on the left side. I ski with my boots canted 1 degree out (grind the soles, then risers go on). Last year I went with a comformable foam liner and ran a size 325. Without the food beds I am thinking I can comfortably get into 315's with some grinding around the sixth toes.
1. Is my premise above about volume correct?
2. I am thinking about going without a foot bed to reduce the volume needed to fit my 11.5 wide foot. I have to use footbeds in my tennis and street shoes or I get neuromas. Can I get away with out footbeds?
3. If I have to go with footbeds, what do you recommend, hard or soft?
4. Would you recommend the sock liner or go with a foam liner again?
This last Friday I had my Rossi ZI/ZC Plugs built. While going through the 8 hour process I heard and saw many things the confirmed many of the rumours I heard coming out of the world cup and FIS world.
My fitter was Zach Lloyd who learned his trade from Thor Verdonk, the man who was responsible for building Bode's boots when Bode won the GS World Cup Title (I saw the boots).
Here is a very brief description of what we did.
1) I was in Dobe 150 Stiff 10's (323MM). I had hurt my ankle early in 2004/05 season and broke down my sock liner so in December I had gone to a Comformable liner. They worked well for the season but were MUCH colder than with the stock sock liner.
2) I have size 11.5 Street shoe with a fairly wide fore foot.
The first thing we did was jam my foot into a size 9 (317MM) Boot. You could never have convinced me that I was going to get into these things. I've got a picture of my foot after having the boot on for just 5 minutes - it was actually red, white and blue, no kidding.
I put on both boots and took a lipstick and marked all the pressure points on the boot while Zach took copious notes about what I was saying as I marked the outside of the boots.
Next we talked about foot beds. I told him that I was thinking about going without the foot beds this year as I knew what my bare foot canting was (I'm .50 degree out on the right leg and TDC on left leg). I told Zach that I ski with my boots 1 degree out of both (ala Benni Raich).
We talked about foot boards, risers and most importantly the fit around the ankle. We agreed that what I was going for was a snug fit but some room around my mid-upper ankle so I could "articulate" my ankle in the boot. Turns out this IS the current trend and was the same thing Bode was going for in his fit process in the '03/04 season.
Zach took about two hours to grind the material in the plugs to custom fit to my foot. When was done we put in the sock liner and much to my surprise I got my foot in the boots. I had exactly what I was looking for, snug fit around the heel, room in the toe box but some wiggle room around my ankle bones so I could supinate and pronate my foot against the foot board. I got my 11.5 flippers into size 9 boots, shocking!
We weren't quite done yet. I had a little too much pressure over the top of my arch. A little sanding of the foot board and grinding a few more MM's of material away here and there we had a boot that was "shaped" exactly to my specs.
Next we put me on a flat board and using T-Squares and a few other tools Zach checked my canting. As I told him I was spot on .50 out of my right leg and dead on on my left.
So the boots were taken to the planner. First they were made perfectly flat. Next the right boot was taken down .50 degree to the outside. Planed flat and checked on a perfectly flat surface. The same process for the left but we were going to ad a .6 MM piece of material under my riser as well. When done with both boots on a stood exactly 1 degree out on both boots.
The whole process took about 5 hours begining to end. Here is the final product with my driver plates, 5 MM Risers, Sock Liners and lots and lots of grinding. I cannot wait to get these beasts out on the hill!! Please let it snow - NOW!My new racing rigs