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Expert Boot Advice by Jeff Bergeron/Boot Fixation  

post #1 of 216
Thread Starter 
Hi everyone,

As many of you know, I have been answering boot questions on this site for the last two years. Normally I begin this in the fall, but I have been so busy this year that I have not had a chance to get back. Anyway, I am finally back and am going to try to answer questions at least once a week.

1.As before, QUESTIONS NEED TO BE FORMATTED. Start the question(s) with the BACKGROUND INFO and then NUMBER your questions. This allows me to answer questions far more quickly and effectively, and is the only way I can afford the time to be involved. As before, I WILL IGNORE ALL QUESTIONS THAT ARE NOT PROPERLY FORMATTED.
2.Responding to others’ questions is fine, BUT KEEP THE RESPONSES SHORT. No more than 5 sentences. If it needs to be longer contact the person privately or begin a new thread. READER BEWARE- I do not correct any such responses, because it takes too long.

I hope you find this site helpful and useful. Have a great season.

BACKGROUND INFO

Jeff Bergeron is the owner and operator of BOOT FIXATION (Breckenridge CO, 970.453.8546, bootfix@comcast.net), which has developed a reputation as one of the country’s leading authorities on boot alignment and fitting. He has worked in the ski industry as a boot and ski tech, instructor and race coach for the last 18 years. He is currently writing a book on ski technique.
post #2 of 216
so what bla bla bla!!

buckle and go!!!
post #3 of 216
Welcome back, Jeff.
I have a pair of Lange comp 120. They fit me well (after minor modifications).
1- I want to try and soften them a bit for powder and bumps days, so i want to take out one of the rear screws on those days. The question is, take out the top or the bottom one?
2- The last day of last season i skied my old straight 1.95 slaloms on very soft and wet conditions. I skied with the standard footbed (as i have broken my ortho footbed) and at the end of the day my feet hurt like hell. The pain was mid foot on the outside. The heel, the arch, the fingers and finger balls were OK. I had no such problems skiing on modern skis on decent snow (even with standard footbeds). Is this because i din't use footbeds or could it be a technique issue?
3- Can trim to fit Superfeet alleviate this problem (am i on tight budget thia year)/
thanks
post #4 of 216
Hi Jeff.
Background info; level 8 skier, Tecnica Rival boots, Green Mountain Orthotecs Labs custom footbeds.

1. Your opinion on Booster straps and where they should be on the front of the boot. Inside the shell or not? With my stock power straps if I move them partially inside it's great, but all the way inside on top of the liner, it seems to put me on my heels.

Thanks,
Steve
post #5 of 216
Thread Starter 
PSY,

1. I would start by removing the upper bolt.

2. Boots tend to get looser and hurt more when they are warmer, so it probably is not a technique issue. Well made footbeds would probably help.

3. Trim to fit Superfeet (non-custom) can be very helpful for skiers who are either on a budget or just need minor support.

Good luck,
Jeff
post #6 of 216
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SkiMangoJazz
Hi Jeff.
Background info; level 8 skier, Tecnica Rival boots, Green Mountain Orthotecs Labs custom footbeds.

1. Your opinion on Booster straps and where they should be on the front of the boot. Inside the shell or not? With my stock power straps if I move them partially inside it's great, but all the way inside on top of the liner, it seems to put me on my heels.

Thanks,
Steve

Steve,

1. Booster straps can be a helpful product, and how you use them depends on what you are trying to do. (For anyone not familiar with Booster straps, they replace your power strap with one that is elastic. This can provide better hold on the upper leg and improve the flex pattern.)

The question is do you like how your boots flex or are they either too stiff or too mushy? If your boots flex well, I recommend you keep the Booster straps on the outside of the shell. If your boots do not flex very well, then I would put the straps on the inside of the shell. This will improve both the "return" (how well it goes back to an upright position after flexing it) of the boot and how well the boot holds the mid-calf.

Still, there is no ideal flex pattern for all skiers, so you may want to try both positions. Keep the above advice in mind but do not be afraid to go with what simply feels best to you.

Good luck,
Jeff
post #7 of 216
Jeff,
Info: Advanced intermediate skier, ski mostly in east, just bought elan s-10 skis, currently own salomon performa 5.0 boots in 31.
1) My currents boots have gotten far too big (packed out), is there anything I can do about this?
2) I'm looking into buying new boots, but I don't want to spend more than 300, any suggestions?

Thanks
post #8 of 216
Background Info:

My 16 y.o. son has a long, skinny foot (12 A) with a low instep to go with his long, skinny calves (he's 6'4", 150 lbs.). He skis lots of bumps, under the lifts, steeps, etc. He was floundering in some packed-out Rossi KX's (yellow, really stiff) that allowed his foot to slop all over the place. Just put him in a new (04/05) Lange Comp 120 LF - size 11 with green trim-to-fit Superfeet. After 2 days in the boots, he's enduring somewhat scrunched toes (length-wise), but more importantly, he has developed a bump on the outside of each ankle about an inch in front of the ankle bone - resembles a second ankle bone.

Questions:

1) Considering the "bumps" on his ankles, should I just let him ski with them the way they are for a few more days, take them back to Christy Sports to see what they can do, or do I need to come see you?

2) Could you estimate what you would charge to work on him if we come see you? (I wish you were in Winter Park or Copper where we normally ski!)

3) My foot is shaped nearly identically, but a size bigger (measure a 13 B). No one in Co Spgs stocks the LF in a 12/12.5. Do you think I'd be safe in ordering that boot as a basis from which to hire you to make them fit me well (FWIW, I'm currently in 15 yr. old Lange XRi "Pink Panthers" that are slopping all over on me (size 13) - please, no laughing ) Or, at my size (6'2", 200lbs.), skiing similar terrain (bumps are my current passion/challenge), should I be considering the 130 boot?

Thanks,

AM.
post #9 of 216
Jeff,
Background: Lange 120 boots, expert skier. 160#. Spend the majority of my time in the back bowls of Vail. I have a very narrow foot & calves. The Lange fits great in the foot, but I'd like increased shin/tongue contact. Overall I like the flex of the 120 which I recently purchased. They're a bit softer than my '96 Langes (I forget the model #, but purplish with neon yellow buckles) which works better for me.

Question:
1. Would a booster strap or eliminator tongue provide me with improved shin/tongue contact.
2. As I've never used either, please explain the merits of both.

Thanks in advance. Since moving back to CO from VT I'm in Vail just about every weekend. Perhaps I'll swing by Breck one of these days so you can have a look-see.
post #10 of 216
AM, Breck isn't that far from Copper, and dropping by to see Jeff given what you've said here is a pretty good idea, I think!
post #11 of 216
Hi Jeff: I appreciate your service on this site.

I recently purchased 2005 Lange Comp 120's, which are fabulous!

The only problem is that the edge of the liner tongue on my right boot digs into my instep over the blood vessels. As a result, my foot goes numb after awhile (I'm told this isn't good).

What to do? No amount of shell punching helps. I'm now considering getting new Intuition liners to remedy the situation.

Otherwise, these 2005 Lange liners are amazing (heat moldable - great fit).

Is there any other option you can think of?

Thanks for taking the time to respond!
post #12 of 216
Hi Jeff-

Background Info:
46 years old, 5'5", 185 lbs (very athletic in past but getting flabby in old age)
Moved to Boston 5 years ago and started skiing again so I bought some gear that included Nordica Exopower (whatever that is) Trend 07 Lady boots. I've replaced my skis twice, but kept the same boots. I'm currently on Atomic Metron M:9s and am comfortable skiing on some advanced terrain (the easier groomed black trials). But I want to get better!

My boots have been worked on by boot fitters and I have a custom foot bed. I'm afraid of getting new boots because I don't want to risk creating foot problems. I have flat, straight feet; wide, square toes. The Nordicas are comfortable, but I want to be sure they aren't preventing me from improving as much as possible.

1. I wonder if upgrading my boots will help me improve? Or if what I have is good enough, I just need to keep skiing, working on technique, and the skills will come even with the boots I know have?

2. If you think I'll benefit from dumping my current boots, do you recommed any in particular?

If you have some thoughts, I'd appreciate your response.

Thanks
post #13 of 216
Quote:
Originally Posted by ssh
AM, Breck isn't that far from Copper, and dropping by to see Jeff given what you've said here is a pretty good idea, I think!
You're right, though we ski more often at WP than Copper - Eisenhower is a real drag when you're daytrippin!

I may be skiing alone at Copper on Friday - kid has a basketball game in Buena Vista, which is a great excuse for me to take the day off and go ski nearby! Any chance you'll be there then? It'd be great to hook up for a few runs.

AM.
post #14 of 216
Hi Jeff, thanks for taking the time to answer questions here!

BACKGROUND INFO:
36 yrs old, 215 lbs, V shaped feet (narrow heal, wider towards the front of the feet). Feet are exactly 28 cm long and 10.5 cm at their widest point. Intermediate/advanced skill level. Currently making the painful transition from older gear: rear entry/straight skis to 4-buckle/shaped skis.

No professional boot fitters in my area, no plans to visit a big mountain this year. After gobs of time trying on different boots, I ended up buying tecnica diablo flame size 28.0 ultra-fit liner. These were the "snuggest" feeling boots I could find, that didn’t make my feet go numb in 5 minutes. (numbness at the inside and outside edge of the foot)

Questions:
1.My heal moves about 1cm when I lift my foot of the ground (in a motion I would use to sit 'cross legged'). Is this heal movement a problem?

if it is....

2. Should I drop down a shell size and suck up the numbness till the liners pack out? Or is there something else I can do to make them fit better around the heal?

Thanks!
post #15 of 216
Hey Captain Strato- I know that Jeff can probably answer this better than I, but the numbness problem you are having is due to nerve, not blood vessel, compression. I suspect that the reason the punching you have had done so far has not worked is that the area that the nerve compression is occurring is not the same as the place your bootfitter has punched out, despite where you are feeling tightness.

I would map out the areas on your foot that are numb- with that information, you can get some idea as to which nerves are involved based on the distribution of their innervation (which is somewhat varaible, but will give you a good place to start). Then you may have some guidance as to where the compression is occurring based on the route that the nerves take in the lower leg and foot.
post #16 of 216
Really dumb footbed question (especially since I've been skiing since 1980): Where do you put trim-to-fit footbeds? Inside the liner? Under the liner in place of the stock piece? Wisecracks receive rain next weekend. Thanks
post #17 of 216
They replace the existing footbed. Remove it, throw it in the trash, trim the footbed to size and place it in the liner.
I hope you appreciate my sincerity. It's only cause I'm heading back to Vail tomorrow night.
post #18 of 216
Happy New Year Jeff. Thanks for finding time to post.

Needed: Boot recommendation

Background:
1. Chicken Leg brotherhood. Tight Achilles Chapter.
2. Foot=98mm forefoot, 285mm length. Long 2nd toe. Low arches/instep.
3. 6', 160#, 35 y.o. advanced skier. Primarily eastern terrain. Value agility on the hill, prefer light equipment.
4. Looking for a narrow lasted boot, with upright, more neutral stance.
5. Went to SureF*t -- they stuck me in 28.5 MF Lange Comp 100. even though I asked for a narrower last in 27.5, they said the 28.5 MF was perfect. (my foot rattled in it.) Tecnica Flame too wide in forefoot as well. I left, pretty p-o'ed. No one carries narrow lasted boots where I am.

Additional bg:
1. A weak left foot from an old foot drop injury leaves my left leg not as powerful and less precise than my right (approx. 97% of flexion). I worry that a race boot flex would be too stiff. I also tend to roll my ankle outward onto the outside edge of my feet as a matter of habit. The extra volume in my current boots allowing this kind of imprecise movement=sloppy skiing.
2. Not sure how effective my rigid (green) superfeet insoles are. Hate the reduced level of foot to boot sensation/contact and the cramping in the soles of my feet from them.
3. I like the abdcuted stance of my Atomic boots, but not the wider last. (They are the grey and orange Beta Rides.)

Questions:
1. Would the Head Custom fit boots with 100mm last be narrow enough? (eg: RS 80)
2. Would older Head N97 lasted boots do the trick?
3. Does Atomic have a boot (because of the abducted stance) that runs narrow enough? Would downsizing a couple sizes to a smaller shell/narrower last help?
3. Do you have other boot recommendations?
4. This rolling onto the outer edge of my foot - is this typical of some inherent instabilty in lower arched feet? Is there a non-rigid sole Remedy for support?

Thanks -
post #19 of 216
Jeff,

These are my stats:
- I am 19
- I live in Australia. I ski at Aspen each Christmas and in the Australian Ski fields for about 2 weeks a year
- ski mainly groomed (powder is good too)
- am 6' 1", 165 pounds
- play alot of sport
- I like to ski fast
- occasionally ski the really hard runs, where there is no one around
- bumps are ok sometimes, but I have bad knees
- I have pretty good technique on groomed runs of nearly any kind but I am out to get better
- have size 12 feet; average width (like 4.5" just behind my toes); no prominent bone/spurs

This season I will be working for the first time as a kids ski instructor at Aspen (yay!) so I am looking to buy my own gear. Price doesnt matter so much, i just want a good pair.

1. What should I be looking for in a boot?

2. What brands should I consider/forget?

3. Do you know of a good boot fitter in the Aspen/Snowmass area?
post #20 of 216

questions...

Background Information:
- Eastern expert, sometimes I like to play in the park but mostly I love trees and fast carving.
- I've got two different sized feet. My left is a 9/9.5 shoe size, my right is a 8.5. Both are EE widths. Also I'm 5'11. 185, athletic.
- I also have extremely flat feet (Cavemen feet) and I wear custom orthotics in my shoes for this. Unfortunately they dont fit in ski boots and are rather expensive so I can't get another set.
- Currently using an older Dolomite, VXS or something like that. It's way packed out, and has gotten so soft i feel like I'm not attached to my skis so its time to get rid of them.
- On my own I tried a pair of the Technica Icon ALU at a 27.0, way too narrow to get even close to putting them on, let alone fitting them. Tried a few others, including a Dalbello (wasn't impressed) at shop and left.
- Went to a better shop and fitting guy helped me out. He seemed to recommend the Dolomite Rage Pro or the Nordica Beast, in 26.5's to keep the tight fit for performance. Those were the only two he had me try on. I should also note that these were the two most expensive boots in the store, so I'm a little skeptical.

Questions:

1. The Rage Pro seemed to fit well, as did the Beast, but neither were great. In both boots a heel lift was inserted on my larger left foot, which helped a little (or so it seemed) with alleviating some pinching of my toes. This seemed to cause heel slippage, especially in the Rage Pro. In general both of these boots actually seemed to have rather roomy heel pockets for me. Was the tech doing the right thing with the heel lift or simply trying to convince me the most expensive boots in the store were the best idea with a small gimmick that helped fit while causing heel and performance problems?

2. Are my heels themselves possibly just too narrow for these boots? Is the heel able to be "tightened up" around my ankle/heel area or is it a find new boots kind of deal?

3. Is there anything else in this flex range that I should go try on?

4. Does 26.5 seem like the size I should really be trying on?


Thanks in advance, and hope the questions are answerable with the information I've given...

-Pete
post #21 of 216
Jeff,

Thanks for taking the time to do this!

Background:
- 6'1"/195lbs
- Advanced Skier
- Telluride - 25 days Annually
- Powder/Trees/Steeps
- Boots - Raichle F1Pro/Custom Footbeds/Booster Straps
- Skis - Legend 8000/178

Problem:

Boots fit very well and I have no comfort issues at all. Problem is that heels lift slightly out of the pocket on both boots, more on left foot. No amount of strap adjustment within reason solves this.

Is this a problem to be concerned about? If so what is the best way to remedy?

Thanks!
post #22 of 216
Quote:
Originally Posted by flyman683
Background Information:
- Eastern expert, sometimes I like to play in the park but mostly I love trees and fast carving.
- I've got two different sized feet. My left is a 9/9.5 shoe size, my right is a 8.5. Both are EE widths. Also I'm 5'11. 185, athletic.
- I also have extremely flat feet (Cavemen feet) and I wear custom orthotics in my shoes for this. Unfortunately they dont fit in ski boots and are rather expensive so I can't get another set.
- Currently using an older Dolomite, VXS or something like that. It's way packed out, and has gotten so soft i feel like I'm not attached to my skis so its time to get rid of them.
- On my own I tried a pair of the Technica Icon ALU at a 27.0, way too narrow to get even close to putting them on, let alone fitting them. Tried a few others, including a Dalbello (wasn't impressed) at shop and left.
- Went to a better shop and fitting guy helped me out. He seemed to recommend the Dolomite Rage Pro or the Nordica Beast, in 26.5's to keep the tight fit for performance. Those were the only two he had me try on. I should also note that these were the two most expensive boots in the store, so I'm a little skeptical.

Questions:

1. The Rage Pro seemed to fit well, as did the Beast, but neither were great. In both boots a heel lift was inserted on my larger left foot, which helped a little (or so it seemed) with alleviating some pinching of my toes. This seemed to cause heel slippage, especially in the Rage Pro. In general both of these boots actually seemed to have rather roomy heel pockets for me. Was the tech doing the right thing with the heel lift or simply trying to convince me the most expensive boots in the store were the best idea with a small gimmick that helped fit while causing heel and performance problems?

2. Are my heels themselves possibly just too narrow for these boots? Is the heel able to be "tightened up" around my ankle/heel area or is it a find new boots kind of deal?

3. Is there anything else in this flex range that I should go try on?

4. Does 26.5 seem like the size I should really be trying on?


Thanks in advance, and hope the questions are answerable with the information I've given...

-Pete

Flyman,

One of the boots you should consider is the new Diablo Mag and Fire models. Try them on and see how they fit your feet. They have a wider forefoot than the Icon Alu and a snug heel.
post #23 of 216
Hopefully an easy one for you, Jeff...
Background: Tecnica Icon boots with green Superfeet insoles.
The insoles were in my previous boots as well.

On my recent trip to Wengen, I got blisters on both feet at the side just above the arch.
My diagnosis is that either the boot lining has expanded or the insole contracted/curled up a bit. My feet were then being nipped between the insole and lining, which caused the problem.

Since coming home, I've taken the insoles out.

Question: Would buying new insoles help, or do I need to get the boot looked at?
post #24 of 216
Thread Starter 
ELVF50,

1. Most ski shops stock a product called a Bontex shim. These are an insert you put either in the liner or between the shell footboard and the liner. They come in 1/16 and 1/8" thicknesses and varying lengths. These can take up a bit of extra room inside your shells. You can also have padding added to the liners, but most shops do not use a high enough grade for this to be effective.

2. I rarely work with boots in this price range because they rarely fit nor perform properly. If that is the limit of your budget, I would suggest you wait until the better boots go on sale at the end of the season. Expect to have to do some searching for your boot size. Without any description of your height, weight and foot shape I cannot make a more specific recommendation.

Good luck,
Jeff
post #25 of 216
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Attacking Mid
Background Info:

My 16 y.o. son has a long, skinny foot (12 A) with a low instep to go with his long, skinny calves (he's 6'4", 150 lbs.). He skis lots of bumps, under the lifts, steeps, etc. He was floundering in some packed-out Rossi KX's (yellow, really stiff) that allowed his foot to slop all over the place. Just put him in a new (04/05) Lange Comp 120 LF - size 11 with green trim-to-fit Superfeet. After 2 days in the boots, he's enduring somewhat scrunched toes (length-wise), but more importantly, he has developed a bump on the outside of each ankle about an inch in front of the ankle bone - resembles a second ankle bone.

Questions:

1) Considering the "bumps" on his ankles, should I just let him ski with them the way they are for a few more days, take them back to Christy Sports to see what they can do, or do I need to come see you?

2) Could you estimate what you would charge to work on him if we come see you? (I wish you were in Winter Park or Copper where we normally ski!)

3) My foot is shaped nearly identically, but a size bigger (measure a 13 B). No one in Co Spgs stocks the LF in a 12/12.5. Do you think I'd be safe in ordering that boot as a basis from which to hire you to make them fit me well (FWIW, I'm currently in 15 yr. old Lange XRi "Pink Panthers" that are slopping all over on me (size 13) - please, no laughing ) Or, at my size (6'2", 200lbs.), skiing similar terrain (bumps are my current passion/challenge), should I be considering the 130 boot?

Thanks,

AM.
AM,

1. The boots need to more fitting soon. If you want to work with Christys you might try Nathan at the Breck store, who is both a good guy and is experienced as a bootfitter. This should be a fairly easy job for me so you may want to just contact me.

2. To do what you described (increasing the big toe and ankle room) would probably range from $40 to $60.

3. I recommend you try them before buying them. This is especially true with Langes because the liners are slightly too small for the shells, which often demands modification. The shop I am now in, Norway Haus, has these bigger sizes in stock, in the LF models. Call me if you are interested.

Jeff
post #26 of 216
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel
Jeff,
Background: Lange 120 boots, expert skier. 160#. Spend the majority of my time in the back bowls of Vail. I have a very narrow foot & calves. The Lange fits great in the foot, but I'd like increased shin/tongue contact. Overall I like the flex of the 120 which I recently purchased. They're a bit softer than my '96 Langes (I forget the model #, but purplish with neon yellow buckles) which works better for me.

Question:
1. Would a booster strap or eliminator tongue provide me with improved shin/tongue contact.
2. As I've never used either, please explain the merits of both.

Thanks in advance. Since moving back to CO from VT I'm in Vail just about every weekend. Perhaps I'll swing by Breck one of these days so you can have a look-see.
Squeaky Wheel,

1. Both the Booster and the Eliminator should improve shin contact.

2. As mentioned above, the Booster replaces your power strap with one that uses an elastic material. This improves shin contact and response. It is generally unnecessary for better boots, but can be very helpful for boots with less desirable flex patterns (as in too stiff or too mushy).

The Eliminator is a tongue pad that takes up volume, which lessens the play in the upper cuff area. It works best for skiers with thinner calves. Keep in mind that it makes your stance more upright (taller). This can be either good or bad, depending on your needs.

If what you need is to get more forward, then the Eliminator would be bad for you and you might want to try a forward lean shim from Lange instead. I would have to see you to know which direction to go in.

Good luck,
Jeff
post #27 of 216
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_Strato
Hi Jeff: I appreciate your service on this site.

I recently purchased 2005 Lange Comp 120's, which are fabulous!

The only problem is that the edge of the liner tongue on my right boot digs into my instep over the blood vessels. As a result, my foot goes numb after awhile (I'm told this isn't good).

What to do? No amount of shell punching helps. I'm now considering getting new Intuition liners to remedy the situation.

Otherwise, these 2005 Lange liners are amazing (heat moldable - great fit).

Is there any other option you can think of?

Thanks for taking the time to respond!
Captain Strato,

You did not quite follow the format, but since the question is simple I am going to answer it.

Most likely the tongue of your liner needs to be modified. Heat molding the liner nor punching the shell will fix the problem. You need a good bootfitter. You may want to try Kelly Timmons (Dr. HappyFeet) who is based in Washington.

Jeff
post #28 of 216
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim
Hi Jeff-

Background Info:
46 years old, 5'5", 185 lbs (very athletic in past but getting flabby in old age)
Moved to Boston 5 years ago and started skiing again so I bought some gear that included Nordica Exopower (whatever that is) Trend 07 Lady boots. I've replaced my skis twice, but kept the same boots. I'm currently on Atomic Metron M:9s and am comfortable skiing on some advanced terrain (the easier groomed black trials). But I want to get better!

My boots have been worked on by boot fitters and I have a custom foot bed. I'm afraid of getting new boots because I don't want to risk creating foot problems. I have flat, straight feet; wide, square toes. The Nordicas are comfortable, but I want to be sure they aren't preventing me from improving as much as possible.

1. I wonder if upgrading my boots will help me improve? Or if what I have is good enough, I just need to keep skiing, working on technique, and the skills will come even with the boots I know have?

2. If you think I'll benefit from dumping my current boots, do you recommed any in particular?

If you have some thoughts, I'd appreciate your response.

Thanks
Kim,

1. In my opinion, your boots are almost certainly holding you back. It is almost impossible to develop any skills beyond bad habits with poor boots.

2. I can recommend some boots that might fit fairly well, but with seeing you in them I cannot know if their basic stance is good for you. Both the Nordica Beast series and the Salomon XWave series might fit you, but their stances vary. (The Nordica is more forward and the Salomon more upright.)

Bonus- Getting the right stance is very important, especially in cases where skiers are struggling with their current equipment. I could certainly help you with this, but if that is too much traveling you may want to try an alignment specialist in your area such as Greg Hoffman at Green Mountain Orthotic Labs.

Good luck, because I know how frustrating it is to be fighting your equipment.

Jeff
post #29 of 216
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Attacking Mid
You're right, though we ski more often at WP than Copper - Eisenhower is a real drag when you're daytrippin!

I may be skiing alone at Copper on Friday - kid has a basketball game in Buena Vista, which is a great excuse for me to take the day off and go ski nearby! Any chance you'll be there then? It'd be great to hook up for a few runs.

AM.
AM,

I am currently in my shop from Wednesday through Sunday every week. Remember to call for an appointment early. 970.453.8546

Jeff
post #30 of 216
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gobucks
Hi Jeff, thanks for taking the time to answer questions here!

BACKGROUND INFO:
36 yrs old, 215 lbs, V shaped feet (narrow heal, wider towards the front of the feet). Feet are exactly 28 cm long and 10.5 cm at their widest point. Intermediate/advanced skill level. Currently making the painful transition from older gear: rear entry/straight skis to 4-buckle/shaped skis.

No professional boot fitters in my area, no plans to visit a big mountain this year. After gobs of time trying on different boots, I ended up buying tecnica diablo flame size 28.0 ultra-fit liner. These were the "snuggest" feeling boots I could find, that didn’t make my feet go numb in 5 minutes. (numbness at the inside and outside edge of the foot)

Questions:
1.My heal moves about 1cm when I lift my foot of the ground (in a motion I would use to sit 'cross legged'). Is this heal movement a problem?

if it is....

2. Should I drop down a shell size and suck up the numbness till the liners pack out? Or is there something else I can do to make them fit better around the heal?

Thanks!
gobucks,

1. It is almost impossible to get boots with no heel lift, unless you do a lot downsizing. 1 cm is not that much, so I probably would not worry about it. It sounds to me like you made a reasonable choice given your goals and limited access to bootfiting. (Given the width of your foot, more downsizing might have required too much fitting.) Perhaps a Bontex shim or some dense foam padding might help.

2. I do not think dropping down a size makes sense for your situation. Keep in mind that there may be better options for you in the future. Next year Tecnica is going to replace the Rival boot with one that is more similar to the Diablo (wider in general, but still keeps the V shape). It is possible you could get into a 27 or smaller boot in this new shell. For now I think you should stay where you are.

Good luck,

Jeff
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