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post #31 of 36

Evolution

These are powerful posts.

I believe that smaller mountains will be the future trend. And it appears that the gouging maga-fakes (mountains) is already driving the dedicated skier-consumer in that direction.

Schweitzer Mountain in northern Idaho looks pretty interesting to me. (Anyone been there? Comments?).

Cap'n, it looks like that, over time, the market has transformed your beloved WB out of its original spartan digs into a fine place. And then pushed on through to become vulgar to you and many others. Now, and it will again take some time, it appears that a correction is beginning to tone it down a bit. Hope so. Can soul be re-captured?

I think so.

- HT
post #32 of 36
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Hey Tiger: I agree with your observation. Less Mega is often more human.

Schweitzer is of interest, as is another new resort in Idaho (forgot the name).

Some resorts, like Solitude or Alta, never plan to go "Hollywood", and that's fine. I prefer a place that still lets you feel like you're "getting away".

Small and simple is good - provided there's reasonable ammenities and a good hill.

I'm still a sucker for Jackson Hole, though. Somehow, it's achieved Mega status while still feeling personal. Or, am I just charmed by chics in cowboy boots, and the homey, western image?
post #33 of 36
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Originally Posted by LeeLau
This of course begs the question? What is soul?

On another related topic. Some people say Whistler is no longer truly a "mountain town". What does this mean?
Basically that it's bigger than a saloon, post office, hotel/brothel, grocer, and the blacksmith's shop. Many ski towns in Colorado used to be mining towns or something similar. Locals hated the skiers who came in. Those same skiers and their offspring hate the latest flood of immigrants.

Whistler's "village" is rather sprawling- especially if you include the surrounding "suburbs"- but at it's heart it's still just a bunch of shops with ski junk, "rooms" with beds, and places to eat at the bottom of the slopes.

It's all too complex for me. I haven't got time to worry about what used to be (nothing much I can do to change it). If I like a place I go and if I don't... I don't.

I do like to be able to park my butt as close to the lift as possible so I wake up, walk a short distance and board a lift. Once did that with a camper in a parking lot, but as the earth becomes more populated and more people decide to spend their money on skiing, that privilege gets more expensive if the area is in high demand. Capitalism at work. I've worked hard and saved some scratch, so I don't mind trading it for a room where an old camper used to sit. I am not going to fault the owners\company if they can raise more money by selling real estate than lift tickets. It's up to them to manage their assets judiciously- if they screw up and make it unpalatable, then the spiral works in reverse too.

As nostalgic as we might like it to be... running a ski area is a business. Some owners\managers seek fame and fortune and others seek to exist. Best thing to do is pick the one(s) you like and ignore the rest. Helps me keep my life simple.
post #34 of 36
I started going to Whistler about 20 years ago. Nachos and beer were more expensive there then everywhere else. But after spending 8 hours hammering yourself on the terrain, getting as much runs in as you can it was worth it.

Since then we started coming up here in the summer to mountain bike. While quieter it was still expensive and DEAD. But it had some lure.

Three years ago my husband and I (Leel) bought a place at Bayshores. We come up here all the time now. We stay away from the village. We ski, we ride we experience what for us is the soul of Whistler:

Skiing


Friends


Backcountry


Riding




Unfortunately, people who only come here for 3-5 days in the winter or summer only see the glitz and glamour. This does not exist for us. We avoid the village except when we want to do some people watching or take a day off. Whistler is one of the few resorts that you can actually spend your non-skiing days actually DOING something.
post #35 of 36
<<icancruz>> We ski, we ride we experience what for us is the soul of Whistler


L'Chaim...as they say. Looks like you've found it! You've invested your time and money well- enjoy!
post #36 of 36
Has Whistler ever had soul.I thought soul was found in urban America,the hood(ha,ha).It may be pricey, or over developed, and if you don`t like that fact about Whistler, then maybe you shouldn`t go there.I`m from the mid-atlantic and I have been skiing out west for the last 5 years.I`ve skied Tahoe,Utah,Colorado and Banff haven`t done Jackson Hole yet,but dollar for dollar acre for acre it`s the best damn skiing on North American soil period. I`ll be there Jan.9-16th.I know because i have SOUL!
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