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post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
ok i am trying to figure out waht my problem is. whenever i am carving on edge, i can not get my inside ski to get on edge without it getting caught in a weird, about to fall position, and me having to sget it off edge. it might be the skis as they aer new, and have never been tuned, or is it the way i am doing it? i can put the outside edge up just fine, but when ever i try the inside one it doesn't work, so i end up doing a wide stance carv that is probly wrong.
if anything is missing, or doesn't make sense just tell me and i will fix it
post #2 of 20

New skis should ski well right out of the box so I don't think that's a problem. Also a wide stance at about hip width apart is preferable for good carved turns. From what it seems you are describing, you might be leaning too far into the hill and loosing the outside ski. If this is true, then try just tipping the inside ankle over to the inside and engage the edge that way. Then apply some pressure but not more than you have on the outside ski. Try this and get back to us.---------Wigs
post #3 of 20

I agree with Wigs. Take notice of what is happening when you are losing control. Are your skis running apart on you? If so, you likely have too much pressure on the inside ski. Edge angle is one thing, and the two boot shaft and shins should be parallel, but if you put too much pressure on the inside ski, the will run apart. A lot of times this is due to excessive banking (leaning in with the shoulders).

One trick to help to see if this is the issue, is to make sure you keep your inside ski pole off the snow, and intentionally and somewhat forcefully, drag the outside pole in the snow. Make sure you feel the pole dragging in the snow and it is throwing up a bit of snow. Have someone watch to make sure you are doing it correctly. A lot of times, I'll ask students to do this, and they will swear up and down that they were dragging the pole, but when you watch them, their pole tip is well off the snow.

Doing this will force your upper body more upright (angulated) and keep you froom applying too much pressure to the inside ski.

However, not having seen you ski or even a picture, I'm just hypothesising, and could be way off base.
post #4 of 20
Thread Starter 
I think i agree with both of you. i think i am leaning too much into the turn. unfortunatly i wont be able to get out and try it until next week
i think trying to drag the outside pole sounds like it woukd help alot.
post #5 of 20

when you're first starting to parallel carve, and really focusing on getting the inside ski to react the same as your outside ski, focus on driving your inside knee. the position will feel exaggerated at first, but you will find that the ski will respond the same as the ouside ski. work on having your skis and your knees the same distance apart.
good luck.
post #6 of 20
I have a hard time carving as well...I lurned how to ski on center mounted twin tips...it really seemed to make learning not to "swosh" my tails hard because the tails are so big
post #7 of 20
excuse me apparently I "learned" how to spell on the mountain as well
post #8 of 20
Thread Starter 
i am trying to do this on twin tips too. they are public enemies as some of you might know.... i know they can because i have seen oothers doing it right, so it is just me. thank you for all your advice. but i have one more Q when you are doing this should you be leaning into the turn? and if so how much
post #9 of 20
Having both your skis track together during a carved turn is a combination of many variables. Balance, alignment, strength, dedication all play a role.
post #10 of 20
It sounds to me like your trying to get too much from the inside ski and it's upsetting your stance/balance. I would start by making turns concentrating on the outside ski (which I assume you already know how to do), and then add a little inside ski, gradually building the amount of force you get from the inside ski upover many turns and within a single turn. Notice what happens as you do it.

Disclaimer I'm no ski instructor.
post #11 of 20
U is a good carver...just u need to get on your edges without forcing it. I ski u ski and i just know your trying to carve things out. U will eventually get it because once u edge ski u never go back. try 2 get your skis closer 2 each other when u carve because that helps me edge ski. But be careful because u don't want 2 trip (lol). I sometime has a problem with skiing 2 close but thats my issue. Its hard 2 explain but u may want 2 lift your inside ski at times in SKIING ES MUY BUENO
post #12 of 20
Explain what u want 2 know

explain carving issue...that could help

Yes....Midwest skiing... now i know i am desprate
post #13 of 20
Thread Starter 
ow far a part should the skis be to get a real nice edge carv in? i have hear about the length as if you had a basket ball between your skis or omthing close to taht.
post #14 of 20


Yukon: So that none of the coaches mislead you by mistake, a few pictures or a video would be greatly appreciated. Good luck.

whtmt & Mackenzie 911
post #15 of 20
I totally disagree on every point, Sandman.--------Wigs
post #16 of 20
Y is that ....Wigs

I find that sometimes that it is helpful to lift the inside ski 2 turn better. Edge are key 2 fluid carving. If u can set a edge u get a nice strong turn response. Wigs help me out with this... i am not good at explaining good carving
post #17 of 20
Thread Starter 
Sandman wigs just validated EVERYTHING I've been teling you. and I must point this out to you (its an inside joke)
"You better call Pizza Hut 'cause you just got Pizzowned!"

PS: Wiggs please help him, and me:
post #18 of 20
There are a lot of variables to consider.

- Experience, comfort with speed.
- Ski configuration, size and width in relation to your weight.
- Snow conditions - deep wet snow is more unforgiving.

Based on my own experiences, you may be trying too hard to make turns, throwing too much weight to the downhill ski. As you push on the downhill ski, it gets pushed too far downhill putting too much separation between skis. When I saw photos of myself in a turn, I looked like I was stiff legging my downhill ski, leaving too much distance from my uphill ski - I looked off balance. (Have someone photograph you in your turns.) The answer for this is to slow down and bring that inside ski around perhaps with a little lift to get it aligned with the downhill ski. Then just give the uphill ski a little edge with a little pressure on your little toe - not so much weight - more to keep your skis lined up and maintain centered balance over your skis.

I finally figured out that at 200 lbs., I needed a larger, wider ski to support myself in a turn. When I went to a wider ski, I felt more stable and in control, so I didn't need to turn so hard.

Carving might be harder for the beginner because it requires you to proceed at a faster speed. Instead of burning off lots of speed with sharp turns, you subtley burn off just a little speed with smooth weight transitions, no skidding. It feels like riding on a rollercoaster track. I read a book many years ago, "The Zen of Skiing", that nicely explained carving in terms of transferring weight in a Yin and Yang fashion where the end of one turn is the beginning of the next turn, the downhill ski becomes the uphill ski in a smooth weight transition that makes carving attractive.

Frankly, most of us don't really carve - we're just in too much of a habit of skidding to burn off speed. People who carve are moving pretty fast.

- You can always get out of turning trouble by pointing your skis straight downhill.
post #19 of 20
Another issue could be too much lead with the inside ski. If that is the situation the inside ski will be so far ahead of your hips that you cannot support youself. You must be able to stand on the ski. Think of pulling the inside ski back and see if this helps.
post #20 of 20

I do not recommend picking up the inside foot. Why? For one, two feet on the snow are better than one. Another reason is that it forces the upper body to be too angulated. This is something we use to do in the old days with the older equipment but not now. Just stand on the side of the hill and pick your inside ski up and see how much angulation there is in the upper body. And if one is picking up the inside ski, how is one going to get any idea how to create good angles on the snow with that ski. Blizzard has a suggestion that you should try. Read his post below. --------Wigs
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