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Marmot Basin December 26, 2004

post #1 of 24
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Marmot Basin located in Jasper National Park in Alberta is off to a great start.

Opened on November 26 on time with okay coverage. December 18 we were treated to 39 Cm of fresh Alberta POW in the parking lot and more up top. On December 26 we received an additonal 10 - 15 Cm in the parking lot adn 20 Cm up top.

all of those numbers with regular snow falls in between have brought Marmot basin to a ready to ski condition without to much worry of rocks.

all of this and under $50.00 for a lift ticket and next to non existant lift lines makes it the best choice in the Alberta Rockies for me.

I might be biased but I would rather have a bad snow day and lots of runs than a crowded good snow day with a few annoying runs.

No I don't work for Marmot Basin, it's just my other home in the winter.

http://www.skimarmot.com/u/hillconditions.html

Mark
post #2 of 24
any steep stuff open,,, eagles east and the new stuff??? terrain off the knob???thinking about heading up there for jasper in january,, maybe even continue on to the powderking,, they have sooo much snow,, ive never been there and its damn far but it lookz like it would be alot alot alot of fun...
post #3 of 24
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Eagles East was open, not sure if Sugar bowl and Birthday bowl are yet. they need another 3- 40 Cm to make eagles rockin but it had slim snow at the entry and about 30 feet down then it got pole deep and no real worries except when layin down hard you could feel the rought terrain still underneath.

Knob well... Charlies bowl isn't open yet (why I don't know) but the rest of the Knob is. Knob Hill was outstanding we did more than few runs down that.

I wouldn't hesitate to make a stop at Marmot but keep a eye on their snowfall if they havent' had snow in a few days you may want to go to Sunshine or Louise. Sadly Marmot get kinda ignant without snowfall in early season.

but by January if things keep going the way they have it would be no worries.

Mark
post #4 of 24
People were skiing all of Knob yesterday and today.
post #5 of 24
I'm heading up to Jasper on Feb. 10. Never been, I'm assuming base should still be o.k. for skiing. Any info on things to do, where to eat, etc... I live 2 hours n. of L.A., looking forward to going somewhere w/out a crowd.
post #6 of 24
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By Feb. 10 all systems should be a go. February is a great Month at Marmot Basin. I always get powder on the 13th there. the town of Jasper is small so you can pretty much get around by foot without any problem. The Atahbasca Hotel is a good night spot, so is the whistle stop lounge. things to do well... there is a movie theater, a aquatic center, ice skating on one of the lakes (I forget which one) I would try to make it to Maligne Canyon (this is something to see).

Jasper is a very quiet relaxed place with alot of locals. Marmot is the only close ski hill but if you look into it there is usually a bus that takes you through the park to Sunshine Village or Lake Louise for a day of skiing. The parkway road in good conditions will take about 3.5 hours of driving from jasper to Banff. if you are not a good winter driver I don't reccomend doing this in a rental car, take a bus.

if you want more info. just ask.

Mark
post #7 of 24

Skiing Marmot

Mark, thanks for the info. We are flying into Edmonton, then renting an SUV to Jasper. I grew up in the snow so driving shouldn't be an issue, besides it's a rental. I get the additional rental insurance & put in my dad's name just in case . We are staying @ the Marmot Lodge, hope it's decent. My wife likes the finer dining, any suggestions? Looks like your home mtn is Marmot, Tahoe is ours (even with the 8 hr drive).

Bill
post #8 of 24

What are conditions like now?

As the title says.... I'm trying to decide whether to book for the first weekend of January in Jasper (15 to 17). How's the skiing right now? (no need to tell me about double-blacks, I'm not quite ready for those yet)

Last year I had a pretty enjoyable one day, but it was so rocky I decided to leave early and head for Louise on the second day.
post #9 of 24
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Originally Posted by gnjantzie
As the title says.... I'm trying to decide whether to book for the first weekend of January in Jasper (15 to 17). How's the skiing right now? (no need to tell me about double-blacks, I'm not quite ready for those yet)

Last year I had a pretty enjoyable one day, but it was so rocky I decided to leave early and head for Louise on the second day.
I would say that right now the coverage is good, most rocks are under snow. the off piste area's still require a soft touch as about another 50 cm is really needed to make it ready to rip.

the main runs will have some little rocks churned up but likely nothing to serious to worry about. they have been getting and will get steady moderate snow falls between now and the middle of Jan.

I won;t lie to you, Sunshine likely has the most primo conditions in Alberta followed by Lake Louise and Marmot being equal. personally I do not like sunshine, no fall lines and a pain for crowds just always leaves me feeling like I didn't get enoug skiing in. Louise is great but when it gets hard pack and icy it can be real ignorant, but still a great hill.

Marmot well, lots of fall lines, lots of choices, when the snow is good it is great rarely a line up, small town feel, lots of charicter and for the money can't be beat.

If I were to go to Marmot today I wouldnt even bring my rock skis.

Mark
post #10 of 24
I see there is more now and more coming.....

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post #11 of 24
there is demo Jan 15-16 at marmot FYI d-star/nordica/K2 etc will be there
post #12 of 24

Apres Ski?

So what are the better pubs? It looks like I'll be skiing Marmot during the demo days. I'm going to trade in a coupon from the sunshine/marmot book for a cheap room, so I'll have a little money for beer.
post #13 of 24
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Originally Posted by gnjantzie
So what are the better pubs? It looks like I'll be skiing Marmot during the demo days. I'm going to trade in a coupon from the sunshine/marmot book for a cheap room, so I'll have a little money for beer.
Many many a shocking bar story has arisen from the Whiste stop (more of a pub) and the "Athaby" Athabasca Hotel (more of a night club last time I was there).

beauty of it is they are right across the street from each other and stumbling back and forth is easy.

you will find them just off the main drive, right across from the info building with the park. which is right by the train station. jasper is so small just ask.

Mark
post #14 of 24
Marmot_mb,

I am heading your way with family in a couple of weeks (I can barely sleep through excitement!). The thing that concerns us most is the temperature, looking at the reports we see -30's scattered about the place, is it really that cold there!? That being the case and since you must thus have to deal with it, are there any accessories which we should be buying to keep ourselves warm? We have our suits and 3 layers and what have you, butis there anything else?

Thanks!

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post #15 of 24

Cold Weather Gear

The minus 30 weather won't last for long. You may see the occasional -20, but usually Jasper and Banff are a little warmer than the areas east of the mountains. Looking at the 10 day forecast on weather.com for Marmot there is really only one fiendishly cold day (low -36, high -21 the next day) and then we are into a more seasonal range (-12 lows, -3/4 highs all temperatures Celsius). And you may have heard this before: it's a dry cold so you don't feel it as much.

I was up at Sunshine yesterday and the thermometer at Angel Chair was reading -22, but I was relatively warm in my gear so you might want to use this as a guide. Base layer: briefs, polypro long underwear, fleece/polypro undershirt, Outlast ski socks. Midlayer: fleece sweater/pull over (had it been a few degrees cooler I might have added fleece tights or pants but my legs usually stay warm. Outer layer: Ski jacket (nylon shell with detachable fleece lining/inner jacket, Ski Pants (windproof, water resistant shell with fleece lining and nylon inner-shell). Accessories: Thinsulite or Liteloft insulated gloves, a mid-weight fleece neckwarmer that can be pulled up over the nose on the lift, goggles, helmet. If I were follicly challenged I would add a skullcap/beanie under the helmet but I have enough hair to insulate it fairly well.

Note that not an inch of exposed flesh was visible when I had my neckwarmer pulled up. I also bore a passing resemblance to the Michelin Man in my full gear since it has sufficient room to create insulating air pockets, but on a cold day I'll always choose warmth and safety over my status as a fashion plate.
post #16 of 24
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by buns
Marmot_mb,

I am heading your way with family in a couple of weeks (I can barely sleep through excitement!). The thing that concerns us most is the temperature, looking at the reports we see -30's scattered about the place, is it really that cold there!? That being the case and since you must thus have to deal with it, are there any accessories which we should be buying to keep ourselves warm? We have our suits and 3 layers and what have you, butis there anything else?

Thanks!

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for accesories ensure that you have full skin coverange for -20C and below. The wind is really the killer and more so on the chair. A fleece neck tube is my best friend, its like putting on an extra layer. Pop it over the face on the way up and pop it down for the run, or leave it on depending on your preferance, plus it keeps the powder going down your back. Good gloves are important, but don't put extra layers under well fitting gloves except maybe a very thin silk type layer. more is not better.

if you have skied in cooler weather before it will be no worse, but this is comming from a Canadian born and raised in this bliss. My favourite ski temp is -17C to -22C.

Mark
post #17 of 24
Thanks guys! By the sounds of it, it isnt going to be so bad. I have my balaclava so that has me almost completely covered...... save for my nose unless I want foggy goggles! I was in whistler last year and that is really my only experience of the mountains..... I was skiing with my jacket open and no hat I was so warm, Im almost loking forward to it being a bit chillier! I'm really really excited! Only 10 days now!

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post #18 of 24
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there are some pics of Dec 26 on my MSN pic page now. Sorry for the quality they are still shots captured from the video.

Grrrr those digi cams eat batteries. all was well at the truck on the hill... Dead Cam.
http://ca.msnusers.com/BikersfromAlb...msnw?Page=Last

Mark
post #19 of 24
Talk about a way to make a man jealous! All the pictures I have seen of the Marmot ski area looks so wonderfully tranquill.

I see that the temperatures are getting back to normal again as well....presumably that means the air will be less arctic and thus have more moisture...... meaning more snow??

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post #20 of 24
Fantastic! It is chucking it down this week! Just in time for us arriving on sunday!

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post #21 of 24

Good skiing last weekend only getting better

I was out there on Saturday and Sunday and conditions were pretty reasonable. It has been dumping snow since I left on Monday and by now it should be awesome! It looks like Marmot is getting the shoulder of the current storm in the BC Rockies. They're also scheduled to be brushed by a few of the Alberta Clippers we're going to be sending to Ontario throughout the week.

I hope you are heading out by way of Edmonton. I came back to Calgary via the Banff-Jasper (Icefields Parkway) Highway and the road was in pretty poor shape. They have it totally shut now because of the heavy snows, freezing rain, avalanches, and generally foul weather stretching west as far as Sicamous BC.
post #22 of 24
We are going via Banff as we are spending a night there..... it did and does concern me that it may be tough to get up there but doing some rationalisation. First off..... maybe the stormy weather will have mostly passed by saturday, second I have done a bit of assuming that given the temperature, precipitation at road level would be rain and not snow.....

Of course im making excuses to bolster my confidence that it will all be ok! Is there any web site which would give the status of the Icefields Parkway?

Thanks!

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post #23 of 24

Motor Association site for Road Conditions

Here is the site for road conditions. It should be quite easy to navigate to the appropriate section:

http://www.ama.ab.ca/cgi-ebs/road_re...&path=1&sec=00

Hopefully it will be open for you by the weekend. The problem currently is a lot of freezing rain, since it is unseasonably warm up in the mountains (rain in January!?!). I found the road to be no problem to navigate on Monday, although it was listed as being in poor driving conditions. The two summit areas (Bow and the Icefields proper) were the only real bothersome spots (largely because of blowing snow). Remember that there is always the possibility of black ice, especially when the road is snow covered. Just keep it slow and you should be able to manage quite well. The berm of snow left by the plows along the side of the road ranged from about 1 to 2 feet in height, so you always have some visual reference for the roadway. Make sure you have your winter survival kit (candles, matches, high energy food, flashlight, and a rug or sleeping bag) in the rental just in case. Also remember with the exception of the Num Ti Jah Lodge, the three open hostels (Mosquito Creek, Rampart Creek, and Athabasca Falls) and the warden stations (Saskatchewan River Crossing, Sunwapta Falls) there is nothing open and no human residency along the road. If trouble happens, the best strategy is always to sit tight with your vehicle and wait for someone to pass by.

All that being said, it is quite likely that you will have no trouble whatsoever. Enjoy the trip and be safe!
post #24 of 24
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I made a post re January 20 Marmot basin.
http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=23290

In a nut shell the road is the worst I have ever seen it. be very cautious, take your time, and keep your head screwed on your gonna need it.

I can't speak for the Banff Jasper highway which is currently closed. but...

left Edmonton at 11:00 PM on the 19th and got 380 KM at Marmot Basin at 5:30 am on the 20th. Left Marmot at 3:00 pm and got back to Edmonton at 10:30 PM. Long day for sure. but so worth it.

I would say they have gotten over 40 cm in the last 48 hours and lots of tracks left. Hey I can only ski so much fresh in one day.

some pics of the conditions are:

http://groups.msn.com/BikersfromAlbe...cs.msnw?Page=5
mark

Drive carefull every one.
Mark
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