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Nordica Dobermann SLR

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Thread Starter 
Ski Make: Nordica
Ski Model: Dobermann SLR
Ski Length: 155cm
Snow Conditions Used In: Ice/Granular
Number of Days Used: 1 (so far)
Your Ability: I'm alright
How Many Years Have You Been Skiing: 11
Avg. Days per Year Skiing: 70ish
Other Skis You Like In This Category: Elan SLX Race Stock
Your Height/Weight: 5' 7", 155lbs
Comments:


Okay, here goes the comments. I was reluctant to leave Elan slalom skis this year, as i have been a huge fan of them for about 3 years now. I still hold a special place in my heart (and my skiing) for my SLX T. I'll start out by describing the construction of the skis. They have less sidecut than the SLX (two seasons old but still the same foot print), and are significantly softer. They are mounted with a VIST WC plate that nordica uses for their stock skis. They are very soft skis also, so the stiff plate and soft ski combination is interesting. The mounting position is also significantly farther back than the SLX which is a closer to center mount. The tune on them is a .5 degree base and a 3 degree side, with a cross-hatch and straight base structure. The cross hatch is at a 13 depth and the straight is at an 11 depth.... i think.... might be 13 and 13 too (Wintersteiger).

The result of the flex and mounting position is a ski that you must keep under you, and stay forward on. If you do manage to stay on top of it and push it, it will give a lot back. It didnt have the tendancy to throw you around like an SLX can though. I think this was due to the softness of the ski. The edgehold was great though. I dont think i have ever skied on a slalom ski that had this kind of control on ice. I have had unshakable edgehold, but it usually took some kind of input from the user. As long as you stayed in a carve they gripped with no trouble at all. I was also able to push them pretty hard where i found firm snow and they give back a lot, especially once you bend the aluminum plate they are mounted to. The aluminum plate also gives more snow feel than I'm accustomed to, which was a nice change of pace. They felt very lively and quick.

I havent yet had them in a course, but i felt very comfortable on them, so ithink gates are going to be a breeze on them. I will probably run trails with them versus my SLX's just to see which is faster. I think that these will be quicker because of the edgehold and the ease at which they turn. They seem to have an aggressive side to them when you push them though... they arent a ski that you can be terribly lazy on, but good racing technique (strong outside leg) will work fine for them. I may ski on them this season and buy a 165 for racing next year, depending on how fast they go, and how easy they are.

I'll report back. All that being said... if you can get around the huge price tag, these skis are great. The only place they didnt out perform my SLX was in rebound energy, which made them easier to stay on top of.

Later

GREG
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Greg,

What's the latest on these skis? I'm considering picking up a pair of used 165s from this season for use next year...

My main question is regarding the weight of the skis, i.e. how easy they are to switch and throw around compared to, let's say, a Head.
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They seem to lose some life relatively quickly. It could just be this particular pair, but we have a good USSA guy here that is on them. He was skiing great early season, and is still skiing good GS, but his SL's just don't seem to be initiating like they were. It depends on who you are buying them from, but if they were raced hard, they may have lost some pop.
For reference, the guy I'm talking about has SL national points in the 50's, so he bends 'em pretty good, and has a ton of time on them.
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Thread Starter 
Mine are still in good shape, but then again they havent been skied or raced as hard as the pair that UP is referring to. I did however ski a used pair of my friends (he got them off someone who spent the summer at hood) and they felt slightly more damp than mine, but still skied rather well. Depending on the binding youre using the skis are very light. If youre mounting a race stock atomic binding... they arent as easy to toss around. I use Salomon 914's on mine, and they are eay to toss around. Next year i plan to jump to a 165 so im 100% legal. The 165 (at my size especially) skis like a GS ski, but they are fast, stable, and powerful... They turn at almost the same radius as the 155, but allow you to push on the ski a lot harder than you would on the 155.
Later
GREG
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Thanks for the answer...does the 165 have a different shape than the 155?

Just for reference, which race stock slalom skis would you guys say fare better than others after a season of use?
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