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fischer race stock

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
how race stocks differ from normal skis(something written on them/sizes)? i'm looking for fischer race stock but in the local shop/catalogs its hard to find something. maybe someone post the sizes of race stock(this season's and last season's) if they differ from normal skis(I guess they should)
post #2 of 10
Race stock for the public is a myth. Skis shaped like those made by hand in a race room are reality.


[ October 08, 2003, 08:46 PM: Message edited by: Rusty Guy ]
post #3 of 10
Thread Starter 
so how many levels of "racing skis" are being built? worldcup SC, worldcup slalom and the real race stock?
post #4 of 10
The Fischer retail "race stock" is the same ski as last year, according to what our new rep says. Last year's was lightweight, smooth, great edge grip, fairly stable, relatively easy to ski. Probably just as easy to ski as the race carver version, but the WC has FIS-legal sidecut and a lighter feel. This is a good GS ski, but not as much ski when the going gets rough as say the Stockli or Elan GSX-T (even the Head for that matter). If you aren't sure what GS ski to start with, the Fischer is one that will be fast for most anyone (I am 150 lbs, I know a guy who is about 220 who loves it just as much in a 183 (I was on the 178).
post #5 of 10
Ok, for GS Skis there is the race-bred Worldcup GS, and the more forgiving Worldcup RC. For SL Skis there is the race-bred Worldcup SL and the more forgiving Worldcup SC. Then you have the Race SC, which is a cross between the GS and SL, if you race and can only afford 1 ski.

Rusty, interesting text on the website about the Worldcup SL:

"The truest of Fischer raceroom sticks – each pair is handmade..."

What does this mean I thought the GS and SL were not handmade.
post #6 of 10
Thread Starter 
i'm looking for a true slalom ski-what height should be appropriate for me - tall featherweight at 185cm(6ft)/65kg(145 lb)?
post #7 of 10

The skis the World Cup racers ski on are hand built to their exact individual specifications and preferences. Then they start the season with a bunch of pairs that they test and retest, tune and retune, until they finally select just a pair or two that become their primary race skis. Sometimes skis "like" theirs are available, if you have the right connections, although they still won't be built specifically for you. Typically these skis won't look like much--simple laminated square sidewall construction, with no ridges, bumps or baubles on their top skins. Cosmetically, they may have the same graphics as the retail skis, but their construction may or may not even resemble what's available on the retail racks.

But don't overlook the retail skis. Some manufacturers--Fischer included--do offer excellent square sidewall hand-built race skis to the public. If you can demonstrate a need for more ski than that ... they'll know it, and they'll give them to you!

Also keep in mind that these very high end skis are NOT necessarily better for most skiers. They are high-strung, demanding, and unforgiving. They need to be tuned precisely and waxed carefully and often. The very best skiers can get the most out of them, but they are too much ski for most skiers. If you aren't up to the ski, it will be slower than a more forgiving model.

Finally, real World Cup stock skis may not last very long. They aren't built for durability or longevity. They're built for performance. Among other things, they typically have very narrow edges that are easily damaged and won't hold up to many tunes. You could go through a VERY expensive pair of skis very quickly!

As far as length goes, what do you intend to do with them? If you want them for fun, or for "informal" racing, get whatever length you like. Shorter is better, for slalom racing (but read the warning in the next paragraph), and World Cup racers typically go as short as the rules will allow. If you aren't skiing official FIS races, there are no rules.

If you need "FIS-legal" skis, remember that the new rules this season specify a minimum of 165cm for men. That's 10 cm longer than most of them used last season. But also remember that there is a reason for these minimum length rules: Safety! Short race slalom skis can carve such tight radius turns, and their grip is so tenacious, that they can easily subject a good skier to forces that will hurt you. And shorter skis are less forgiving of error, too. Like a thoroughbred race horse, one little mistake and they'll throw you--hard.

Good luck!

Best regards,
Bob Barnes
post #8 of 10
As always great answer Bob.

Those of you who are interested in Fischer skis please p.m. me and we will see to it that you have a brand new pair at incomparable prices. All the prices include shipping.

As I have said before, it is quite a testimony to the Fischer markee that Bob has decided to make the change to Fischer equipment this season.
post #9 of 10
Hey Bob and Rusty:

How do you guys like your new Soma-Tec boots? What foot shape does it work best for? What size would you put me in for a size 8 street shoe? A 25 shell normally gives me 1 1/3 finger width behind my heel, but I was thinking of going smaller-don't know how this boot fits, though. The rep hasn't come by for our clinic yet, and by the time he does (mid-November) I am afraid the boots will be all gone, so I am seeking info from other sources. Thanks!
post #10 of 10
Bob and I both tried the same prototype boot.

I have a very different shaped foot than he does although we have the same shell size.

I have a wide fore-foot (D width) and I think B has had trouble in the past getting his heel seated in the back of boots due to a narrow foot. I do know he has a very thin lower leg.

I had been in a 307mm, 26.0 Atomic 10.5

I ordered a 25.5 somatec and probably could have done a 25.0

I have been in the boot three days and liked it a lot. The only concern I have is that I have a very high arch and may need to use an aftermarket liner such as the Raichle. We'll see.

I don't want to speak for Bob, however, I get the impression it was the boot that convinced him to make the transition to Fischer. The skis are clearly good. The boot seems pretty special due to the eversion.

It's hard to say about sizing. I wear a nine street shoe. I have heard varying reports as to how many pairs of the boots are coming to the USA. I don't think it's a great many.

[ October 11, 2003, 11:35 AM: Message edited by: Rusty Guy ]
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