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Volkl - Motion vs Flat

post #1 of 8
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I am considering getting a new pair of Volkl 724 EXPs, and am looking for advice on going with the motion system vs the flat ski with a pair of Marker Titanium Piston Control bindings. I am an ex collegiate level racer looking for a pair of all mountain boards that I can take anywhere (primarily east coast).

Any thoughts on the motion system vs flat ski would be greatly appreciated!
post #2 of 8
I like flats with look pivots on them. Never have liked the feel of the integrated systems myself. I'd demo though.
post #3 of 8

Had both

I had a pair of Volkl G30s with Look Pivot 8s, and a pair of Vertigo Motions. I currently have a pair of AX3s with Look Pivot 10s. Here are some thoughts:

1) I prefer the elasticity of the Looks, and had pre-release issues with the Motions. However, my Motions were the first year they were made.

2) I had no pre-release issues with the Marker Motions on a pair of 03-04 724 Pros I tried recently;

3) I thought the Motion system did feel smoother on the groomers, but who cares? Groomers are groomers.

Bottom line: I'd rather have my Volkls flat with Looks.

YMMV.
post #4 of 8
I agree with Dino---
If your going to put a marker binding (ewwww) on them anyway you might as well go with Motion
post #5 of 8
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Originally Posted by Duke
If your going to put a marker binding (ewwww) on them anyway you might as well go with Motion
Unless you want to port your TP's to another ski later. In theory maybe a little less flex interference with Motion, but I have no experience with side-by-side comparisons in controlled conditions. Skied 5*'s a couple of years ago- one with Motion and one without, but at different times. Dont remember prefering one over the other.
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Originally Posted by medmarkco
Unless you want to port your TP's to another ski later. In theory maybe a little less flex interference with Motion, but I have no experience with side-by-side comparisons in controlled conditions. Skied 5*'s a couple of years ago- one with Motion and one without, but at different times. Dont remember prefering one over the other.
Skied them both last year and preferred the motion system. A little damper but was rock solid and smooth on hard snow. I was skeptical but bought the motion system on my 5 stars last year and no regrets.

Will try my new Atomic XS11s tomorrow and see if I like the Atomic system as much.
post #7 of 8
the motion system will ski rounder and smoother than the flat ski, while conforming more to the terrain. it will also more evenly distribute power over the entire edge of the ski, from tip to tail with less effort than on the flat ski. this will make it easier to set an edge in hard snow conditions and will require significantly less effort to initiate. i have always been amazed how well motion system skis ski in the bumps - super smooth!

if you mount a marker piston binding on a flat ski, you will get similar performance. however, the energy points in the flex of the ski will be more pronounced - good for people who want a very specific performance out of their equipment. the flat ski will be more more work and not as regular in the flex.

another thing to consider: the EXP was developed post-motion. this means the ski will most likely ski much better with the motion system for almost everybody.
post #8 of 8
Simply put the skis ski better with the new PCOS motion system. That is how the skis are designed to be skied. If you need to get a flat ski, do your self a favor and get a Marker piston binding. The piston realy improves the way volkls ski.
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