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Outside Ski turns - drills

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 
Well, I have been having major problems getting forward on my skis so I tried a few drills to help ; One of the ones that I like the most is making turns on one ski and pressing as hard forward as possible to keep pressure on the ski . During the turn it feels great but I still can not get any pressure on my inside ski ; either my tipping is bad or I just dont get it .
post #2 of 12
Gator, why would you want to "get forward on your skis"? In general, you just want to stay centered.

And I don't get the "pressure on my inside ski" line, either. What are you trying to do?
post #3 of 12
Thread Starter 

Ski drills

I am trying to figure out how to get both my skis very active in the turn . The outside ski is not hard to roll onto an edge and ride it around but I want to feel both my ski edges .
post #4 of 12
Is this a troll?

How are you going to feel the edges of both skis if you're only skiing on one ski?
post #5 of 12
The guy has 156 posts so I doubt he is a troll.
post #6 of 12
Hmm, guess you're right Scalce. Sorry Gator. I guess I'm not getting it either....
post #7 of 12
A couple of things to try, Gator:
  1. Make turns only on your inside ski, and only by tipping.
  2. Focus on tipping the inside ski towards the center of the turn. You may even want to feel as though you are gently rotating your inside femur in the direction of the turn.
  3. 1000 steps turns, moving to million steps turns. In other words, step from ski to ski around the turn.
Do those make sense?
post #8 of 12
Gator, my guess is that you are letting your inside ski slide (scissor) forward. This action opens the inside ankle shutting down your ability to edge the inside ski. As a result you are forced to transfer all responsibilty to the outside ski.

The symtoms are excess countering to the outside of the turn with your hips. Transfering all the pressure to the outside ski. Rotating the shoulders and upper body over the outside ski and dropping the hips back and to the inside. More or less park and ride on one ski.

Keep the inside foot back underneath you by flexing the inside ankle. Pull the inside foot back if you have to but keep it under you throughout the whole turn. Another way of looking at it is keep the tips of the skis more even.
post #9 of 12
Gator, think about vertical femurs, or thighs through the first part of the turn. Especialy the outside thigh. This another way to a long outside leg. Then think of both shins feeling the front of the boot shaft and then moving the shin contact elipticaly around the boot shaft and to the side. This is femur rotation. Both femurs or thighs rotating in the pelvis. This will allow the inside ski to be active and the stance leg to be strong as you move through counter.

Then focus on the pelvis being titled up to the inside and you will probably have an active inside ski a strong inside half and long structural outside leg, and good coplimentary angles between the feet knees hips and shoulders. Later, Ricb.
post #10 of 12

I like the last two responses. Maybe even move up the body and think about pulling the inside hip back along with the inside foot. Sometimes just pulling the foot back still leaves the upper body countered. Also try to stack up more.--------Wigs
post #11 of 12

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Originally Posted by Gator
I am trying to figure out how to get both my skis very active in the turn . The outside ski is not hard to roll onto an edge and ride it around but I want to feel both my ski edges .
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post #12 of 12
In an earlier message Gator wrote;

Lazy inside knee ..help
Well, I have been trying to really work on making clean carved turns but once I pick up speed I notice two things happening; my inside knee gets lazy and my outside ski tracks away.
as slow speeds things seem okay but once I start to pick up speed bad things happen ..lo
any advice on drills - I have tried the pick up inside ski during the turn but I dont like that drill ..lol
I have also tired varying the width of my feet and that helps some but sometimes that casues me to go back to leaning over and I dont have to tell anyone that that is bad ..lol
okay pros - suggestions ?????

Gator it seems as though you are having difficulties with couple of issues. When you mentioned the inside knee I bet the ranch you had too much weight on the inside leg. You now mention trying to get forward.

It's tough to diagnose without seeing however you seem to be going to extremes. Come by Eldora and I'll take a free look for 45 minutes on my lunch hour or I'll take a look some saturday at Loveland.

You live in Denver and there are a host of PSIA pros in the area who might be able to rectify the problem
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