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boots for smaller feet

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
HI all, I am new to this forum. So far I am way impressed with the technical knowledge here and I am sure someone will be able to help with this.

I generally wear a US size 8 sometimes a 7.5. I am a agressive, advanced skier, 5' 11", 145 LB.

I was given a pair of 2001 / 2002 technica Icon 6.0 boots that were only worn for two days by a beginner skier. The liner says it's a 10 butand it at first seem to fit fine. after putting some time in the boot I think it might be too big. Every ski boot I have ever had I have had to adjust the top buckles to go as tight as possible or move the buckle accordingly then tighten to 3/4. Bottom buckles have never seemed to be an issue. I had to adjust the top buckles of the technica back. and then tighten to 3/4.

All of my ski boots I have always added a Dr. Scholls gell insole under the factory boot liner. this was to reduce volume of the boot.

is there a effective way or proper way to reduce the interior volume of the boot. My idea here is that there must be foot beds that can be made to basically raise me up 1/8" in the boot. the boot is fine end to end it's the volume that is the problem.

I look forward to the answers.

post #2 of 15
Mark, welcome to EpicSki!

The first thing to do with any boot is to pull the liner out and "shell fit" the boot to your foot. How much space is there behind your heel if your toes are just touching the front of the shell? For an "advanced" skier, it should be one to two finger-widths. My guess is that you'll find the size 10 Icons to have about 3 or more!

With your size, you'll likely want a US size 6.5 to 7 (mondo 24-25). Find a good bootfitter in your area (or at the places you ski) and ask for their help. Boots are the one place where you don't want to compromise! Get the best you can.

Read through recent reviews here. The Tecnica Diablos, Atomics, the new Dalbello Krypton, and others are getting great reviews.
post #3 of 15
Thread Starter 
thanks for the dry fit boot tip. Ski shop today was putting me in 26.5 but he only had two boots in the whole store that size. is 24 - 26 going to be a problem finding?

post #4 of 15
Mark -
24-26 are pretty popular sizes...if your shoe size is a size 8, you will most likely be in a 25 or 25.5 for a properly fitting boot. Make sure the shop shell fits you - liners will pack out and you don't want to be left with a boot that is too big after a couple of days of skiing. If the shop didn't measure your foot or check the shell...maybe find another shop. After that, choose the boot that fits your foot the best.
post #5 of 15
Thread Starter 
From what I understand from the boot guy yesterday was that I have a small heel. I would beleive this to be true as I have always had the problem of having my heel rise. Over the years I have adapted to it and I can basically ski any condition with the boots completely undone, agreed maybe not perfectly but the average bystander watching would never notice the differance.

Anyone have any boot ideas for smaller feet. I currently have Rossi's and have been totally happy with them and have always liked rossi product, but I am open to any good boot that fits and has slight flex but still a very stiff aggresive boot. with canting and incline adjustments.

post #6 of 15
You might check out Tecnica Diablo Race Pro - nice narrow fit in that one. Nordica Dobermann might not be a bad fit either.
post #7 of 15
Mark, I agree with gotamagal, those would be great boots for you to try.
post #8 of 15
The Langes are usually good for small heels.
post #9 of 15
Since no one else mentioned this, just in case anyone was wondering, a gel insole is the last thing you want in a ski boot - it will absorb the energy from your foot instead of transferring it to the ski, and will dampen the feedback from the ski too much as well.
post #10 of 15
Strolz makes high end smaller boots. Alot of stores will not stock that small of a mans boot, good luck shopping.
post #11 of 15
Thread Starter 
Aschick, I often thought of the gel insole perhaps not being a good idea but... I have this weird thing with the balls of my feet. the skin grows alot and a few days prior to skiing I have to take a good sharp knife and actually cut off the excess skin. Ewwww ! I know but if I don't I can't even get to 12 noon before my feet are in severe pain. this isn't a ski boot issue, if I wear a hard sole shoe the same thing happens. therfore I put a gel insole in to lift me up and to give a nice soft base. I think this is mostly due to me having all Hardwood at home.

I think if I had a custom foot bed made (with fresh skin hacking done) then perhaps soft isn't needed as proper fit will allow even distribution of my weight on the whole foot. but stock crappy insoles cause most of my weight to the front therefore foot pain.

thanks for all the boot choices everyone and the tips for fit in case of stupid sales guy syndrome.

I did go to the top boot shop in town but what a dissapointing experiance that was. Crusty old Austrian guy that put two boots on my feet then said I have nothing for you. Yet the rich little college kid beside me, with rich daddy in tow oddly enough had lots of boots to choose from with the same size foot. I found it odd that Crusty Austrian didn't even ask me or rich kid what kind of skies he had or what type of skiing he wants or is doing. he asked what kind of skier are you and the kid responded I "used" to race. Immediatly Crusty put the top o line Technica on his foot. all of this of course while I am waiting for crusty to come back and continue serving me. Dropped me like a hot potatoe once rich kid walked in. then I asked if he had any other boots to look at he said no and ignored me completely. I put my shoes on and walked out. all of this and he fully well knew I had a gift cert for his store and that he didn't have a helmet I liked.

Cruddy thing is my awesome wife took 2 1/2 hours with my young 4 year old to go all the way there to buy me a gift cert for a helmet or boots. then waited 1 1/2 hours to get it, even though she phoned ahead to ask if they do gift certs.

After my experiance yesterday I really don't feel crusty deserves my buisness, plus he will not order in a Bula Helmet or a Giro and has nothing else in the store I need besides boots and after that experiance yeah right.

Any idea's how to approach getting my money back (gift cert says nothing about non refund or store credit only) I am so disgusted how I was treated I have half a mind to contact visa and try to cancell the transaction.

sorry for the rant, but i feel better

post #12 of 15
Mark- where do you live? There are probably some people here who can suggest a bootfitter for you.
post #13 of 15
Thread Starter 
I live in Edmonton Alberta, Canada. I keep hearing of all these great boot fitters but in all my years and all my visits to the local ski shops here I don't have much faith in the local boot fitters. I had heard this guy was the best but after that experiance I don't care how good he might be I wasn't impressed.

real life experiance with a good local shop would be greatly appreciate.

post #14 of 15
go see Ivan or Vern at Sundance. don't go on a weekend and maybe call first to make sure they aren't busy.
post #15 of 15
Thread Starter 
thnks for the Sundance tip, but.. I went into Pacesetter ski shop where I have been buying for almost twenty years and picked up a pair of Lange World cup team boots.

I tried on so many boots and all of them were too big. all the way down to a 25. the 25's were tooshort but still to big volume wise.

I hate to say this but the boots i bought are juniors but.. they fit all of my foot snugly. We heat formed them and what a differance that makes.

and for the record I did get my money back from Crusty and I'll leave it at that. I'm not going to bash his store even though he deserves it.

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