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Proper size for Volkl 5*'s??

post #1 of 14
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I'm considering getting a pair of Volkl 5*'s with the Motion AT bindings and I'm undecided on whether to get the 168 or 175.

I'm about 5'10" 200, good aggresive skier, but certainly wouldn't classify myself as an expert skier. I like to tool around most of the mountain, so versatility is important to me in a new ski. I'm currently skiing Volant Machete G's from a few years ago, but their weight has me ready for a change.

Any advice?
post #2 of 14
I weigh ~190 and ski 'em in 168. Personally I think it is the right size for me. 175 would be too long as this is a ton of ski. I would describe my skills in a similar way as you. So I suggest 168s, or maybe event he 161s if you like to turn short. This ski is a high performance carving ski, w/ 68mm underfoot it is designed for steeps, ice, hard pack, groomed, and bumps. Its not really designed for heavy crud, pow, or off piste. Going shorter will only improve its carving and act to reinforce its strengths. Going longer will make it more stable in chop and at the very highest speeds or whatever, but will water it down in short turns and on hard pack. In the end the longer ski will probably be worse at both hard snow and soft snow than another great ski in the right size that is more of midfat / baby-fat ski such as the Legend 8000, Atomic R:EX, 724 Pro, etc...

But don't take my word for it. Always demo for length.
post #3 of 14
The 168's and 175's are like two different skis. I am A 5' 9" 180 lb. advanced skier and I think that the 168 is the only way to go. Try them both to make your own decision.
post #4 of 14
I am 6-1 200 and have skied the 168 5*. Amazing to me at the time that a ski that short could hold edge and not quit or fold. It felt very quick and stable to me in that length. I own a 6* in a 168. You are talking about 2.7 inches of difference, but it may be worth a trial by snow. Good luck and enjoy!
post #5 of 14
what the others said.

the two lengths do ski differently - i would lean towards 168, but if you ski it and are not sure, ski the 175 before purchasing.

even better - ski the 5* in both lengths on the same day!
post #6 of 14

5 star ski size

I had the 5 in a 168cm and now sking the 6 in a 168 forget the 175cm it will ski different .I am 205lbs and about 5'9" this is the right size for you and get the right feel for thid ski's shape .The main difference on these two skis is that the 6 is a little stiffer but more stable and the 5 is a little more flexable might be tad better in the bumps but depend's on the way you ski anyway. Both skis rock in the east. Just skied the atomic metron B-5 in a 162 , great ski and can definatly challange the Vokll and would be much more versitale . good luck and don't look back
post #7 of 14
Interesting thoughts.- I have a different take- I'm 5'11', 170 and an advanced skier. I demo'd the 5* in 175 and 182- I bought the 175 because sometimes I need to thread a pack of people or ski in narrow places and I could fire off five short turns in the space of three on the 182. But for high speed cruising I enjoyed the 182 so much that I skied them the rest of the day. What I liked about them was that I could pressure the tips or the tails in different parts of the turn and get a lot of feedback from the ski. The 175 wants me to stay very centered. They're a fun, fun ski but I couldn't imagine going shorter. My father in law has a pair of 168's- I'll try them over Christmas to see what all the fuss is about. It may be just an East/West thing.
post #8 of 14
I'm with the crab. Am 5'11", 160. I've skiied the 5* in a 182 length, and thought it was great. I own the 6* in 175, and don't think thats too short.
post #9 of 14
while the Supersport skis in all lengths are fun, they use a different construction theory to arrive at the length for a given skier. thus, the ski needs to be skied shorter than comparable models from other manufacturers. the stability and characteristics of the way they ski gets better the shorter the ski is, to a point, but that point is much lower than what most people think.

i can ski the supersport superspeed in a 189, but the ski really comes alive in the 175 length. the superspeed is a long-radius GS turning machschnell ski, so it has to be skied in a slightly longer length. if you make fewer turns this is the ski to be on, not a longer 5 or 6 star.

i have skied the 182 6 star and would definitely go shorter, probably 168, if i bought it. it is basically a slalom carver on drugs (wants to turn all day), and is way more lively, turnable, and easier to manipulate if you ski it shorter than you would expect, and the stability does not dissipate!

that said, i have little experience skiing the 5 star, but it should work the same, especially this season (double grip with very similar further construction), as the 6 star.

buying the 5 star with the piston control oil suspension will only improve the stability and high speed performance of the shorter length.
post #10 of 14
So what length should I get the Superspeed in, and the 6 star in? And which one would be better for me?

I'm 26 years old, 6´3 (190cm) and ~190lbs (85kg) level 8 skier (in good shape). I like long to medium long turns going faaast (with a few short ones thrown in if the slope warrants it).
post #11 of 14
168cm in 5 star or 6 star
175cm in superspeed
post #12 of 14
168cm in 5 star or 6 star
175cm in superspeed
post #13 of 14
Unless you plan on remaining on edge at all times the 168 will be very squirrly if you want the ski to run flat. I like turing as much as then next guy but sometimes you just have to let them run. I have demoed the 5* in a 175 and 182. The 182 is more my liking the 175 works well. The 168 I can only imagine will require you to stay in a turn constantly since the 175 gave me that impression.


I am 6'2" 215lbs and I ski pretty much anywhere I want; most of the time with exception to anything much greater than 49 degrees.

Just my 2 sense

Cheers!
post #14 of 14
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Originally Posted by Keen
So what length should I get the Superspeed in, and the 6 star in? And which one would be better for me?

I'm 26 years old, 6´3 (190cm) and ~190lbs (85kg) level 8 skier (in good shape). I like long to medium long turns going faaast (with a few short ones thrown in if the slope warrants it).
keen - sounds like superspeed time! this ski hauls butt and cuts through everything!
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