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post #31 of 54
If you like groomers, Stratton is by far the easiest to reach from the Albany area. One of those places that make you feel like a hero. Avoid all the southern Vt areas on weekends.
post #32 of 54
I had no plans to return to the East to ski, but it's such GOOD NEWS to hear that Okemo is all forked up with "development" :

skiers who choose a mountain based on its "vertical" are like women who choose a husband based on his member's length.
post #33 of 54
Quote:
Originally Posted by gonzostrike
skiers who choose a mountain based on its "vertical" are like women who choose a husband based on his member's length.
Interesting logic, as I've never heard of a skier losing half his equipment for skiing more than one mountain.
post #34 of 54
you have taken a logical premise and used illogic to extend its reach. when that happens, the premise shrinks and doesn't grow.

there is no "viagra" for logic.
post #35 of 54
Sunday River is sperad out along a ridge with several different peaks. Top to bottom skiing on the largest is 1630 vertical feet.

Stowe can do a lot better than that.

Now MRG has similar vertical on the single chair, but, MRG is intense in the total emmersion into the natural snow, old school New England skiing experience.

Of couse the statements I made are my opinion. That's what this thread is all about.

And, gonostrike, I like a lengthy run. That doesn't mean I always choose to ski the hill with the most vertical. It does factor into how I choose my top 5 ski areas in the east.
post #36 of 54
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Originally Posted by crank
Sunday River is sperad out along a ridge with several different peaks. Top to bottom skiing on the largest is 1630 vertical feet.
How does this work? Sunday River boasts something like 2,300 ft. vertical. Are you saying that they take the highest of their six peaks and subtract from it the lowest of their bases, to arrive at a vertical that cannot be skied because the cited peak does not lead to the cited base?
post #37 of 54
Exactly.
post #38 of 54
That seems to be grossly misleading. Is this "creative math" a common practice? I mean Killington boasts well over 3,000 vertical. Do they use the say surreptitious calculations as Sunday River?
post #39 of 54
We all know that not all vertical is created equal. It's all good, but some mtns ski bigger than their stats, some smaller. Sorry Sandman if this is a hijack of your thread, but here's a few examples: Killington, 3000' vert, but only about 1700' max comes in a straight, steep shot; only by skiing a few long green trails to Skyeship gondola base do you get the whole enchilada (my kids happen to like those trails). Smuggs, 2600' vert, but about 400 of that serves the trail pod leading to the condo complex. Main mtn has a little over 2000' vert. Whiteface has a big 3000'+ vert, but not too many trail choices from the very top and there is a fairly long run out at bottom. I think most would concur that the number of long quality descents at Stowe, exceeds that at Sunday River and many other areas with 2300'+ vertical in New England. Other NE mtns I've been to that pack quality descents over their entire vertical include Sugarbush (N&S), Sugarloaf, Wildcat. But it's all good.
post #40 of 54
Skiable vertical can be one of the most deceptive statistics any mountain can have. Killington with over 3k over vert is rarely skied in doses bigger than 1500. How whiteface has more than 3 is beyond my imagination. Basically if you have 1500 foot shots that is plenty. Consider Alpine meadows, their vert is only like 1800, but oh how I loved that mountain and its terrain. I skied Whistler and its 5k of vert, but rarely did I ski 1500 to 2000 feet at a time. Most of their bottom 1500 is runoff anyway, allthough that is changing on the whistler side. I am heading to Jackson in 2 months and I am very interested in that mountain because it supposedly skis its full 4000 vert with pitch and challenge. That sounds gruelling as Mad Rivers 2000 makes me beg for mercy before I reach the bottom(just as I will tomorrow, woohoo!!) I consider large verticals a luxury, you do not need it, but who does not like a little luxury? I will not however judge a mountains vertical as sternly as I do its terrain and snow....

Alfonse
post #41 of 54
I can't believe only the Canuck said Tremblant

My list, in no particular order

Sugarloaf Stowe Whiteface Tremblant Mad River
post #42 of 54
It's possible to ski the entire 2300 at sunday river, but it's not something I'd recommend. Actually, on an uncrowded day it's kinda fun to race that distance with someone, but this is what it involves: In order to do so, you need to take Kansas, which stretches from the top of Jordan Bowl across Oz and into the grand junction area of Aurora Peak. There are multiple sections that require skating even if you tuck everything else. From the grand junction its more gliding, but with a slightly steeper pitch (no skating required) to lower downdraft. At this junction you better be in a tuck or else your gonna skate again with a couple uphill sections. You can easily glide through the section if you hold your speed though. This brings you towards american express and beforehand you actually get a steep pitch for a few hundred feet. American express is a moderate blue cruiser, but it's pretty crowded and it brings you to the bottom of the spruce peak triple, which involves a junction area and slow zone. As you travel past the chair you have section that's usually crowded with people heading from spruce peak and south ridge toward the barker quad. There's a good pitch in the latter part of the trip toward the barker quad though and if it's not crowded you can tuck it and hold your speed toward roadrunner. Roadrunner is the home stretch. It's kinda long and VERY flat. On a fast snow day it's possible to glide this section but it usually requires some skating.

By the time your done you've covered 2300 vertical feet without taking a lift! Of course it's been covered over a distance of 4.5 miles and about 25 minutes of your time on almost all flat trails.
post #43 of 54
Skiing Killingtons 3k vert involves flat trails and a ton of time as well. Allthought it ends with a fun run called valley plunge that is never open but is often poached. Another positive of skiing all of killingtons 3k vert is there are often parties at the houses on the way down. I was skiing there one day in college and we had parked at the gondola on route 4. On our lesurely end of the day ski down we were suprised by a sign on one of the bridges, keg party on left! We pulled over and had a few beers

Alfonse
post #44 of 54
Alfonse, you will enjoy JH. From the top of the tram to the bottom you really get 4000 vertical of steep skiing.
post #45 of 54
Quote:
Originally Posted by RotoFury
Sunday River: 2,340 ft.
of non-continuous vertical. seriously, this is probably one of the worst cases of vertical drop miss use out there. highest peak to lowest run out. perhaps through a serious of traverses you could link 2000+ vertical together at SR, but c'mon, any one that has skied SR knows no one ever skis 2000 vert feet in a single run, perhaps not even in two runs on many parts of the mountain. SR isn't even in my top 10 for new england.
post #46 of 54
I know, so many mountains exaggerate their stats, its really ridiculous..
post #47 of 54
Quote:
Originally Posted by RotoFury
That seems to be grossly misleading. Is this "creative math" a common practice? I mean Killington boasts well over 3,000 vertical. Do they use the say surreptitious calculations as Sunday River?
Killington has 3000 feet of vertical if you like Nordic skiing.

My top five for the east are, in no order:
-MRG
-Sugarbush
-Jay
-Killington (weekdays only until April folks)
-West Mountain. 12 minutes from work. 1000 vert. Flat.
post #48 of 54
For me

Mad River Glen
Sugarbush
Okemo
Hunter (because it is a day tripper for me)

If I just ski those 4, I am happy.
post #49 of 54
Quote:
Originally Posted by newfydog
I can't believe only the Canuck said Tremblant

My list, in no particular order

Sugarloaf Stowe Whiteface Tremblant Mad River
I would also highly recommend Tremblant. It is a very nice mountain with a lot of challenging terrain. The last time I was there was probably 5 years ago though, it should be even better now.

I think when most people say east coast, they think Vt, Mass, eastern NY, and not Eastern Canada.

My other VT recommendations would be: Sugarbush, Mt. Snow. Planning on hitting Jay Peak for the first time this season.
post #50 of 54
1.cannon
2.jay peak
3.mrg
4.sugarlaof
5.stowe
post #51 of 54
Quote:
Originally Posted by BumpRyder
I would also highly recommend Tremblant. It is a very nice mountain with a lot of challenging terrain.
I would not say that Tremblant has alot of challenging terrain.

Are you counting glades in that analysis?

I would say that Tremblant has the most boring and overated terrain in the Northeast.
post #52 of 54
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scalce

I would say that Tremblant has the most boring and overated terrain in the Northeast.
I am not a fan ot Tremblant either, but I am not that, I mean, its no Blue Mountain. I feel the same about Tremblant as I do Sunday River, they are nice places but for me, I see no reason to pass Vermont for these places. If I lived in Buffalo or Montreal, Tremblant would be OK or if I lived in Bahston, Sunday River would be great. Vermont is 6-8 hours for me, those areas are 12-14...I don't see the benefit...coming from as far south as I am.
post #53 of 54
1. Stratton
2. Tremblant
3. Killington
post #54 of 54
1. Sugarloaf (my home mountain what can I say?)
2. Jay (never been, but vertical plus snow put it at #2)
3. Big Squaw Mtn. ($25/day-no crowds, great trails, views of katahdin & Kineo)
4. Wildcat (good vertical and snow with low crowds)
5. Mount Washington (Best terrain-biggest ball buster)
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