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post #31 of 55
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post #32 of 55
The Chronic is supposed to be a hell of a ski, but I was also under the impression that it is a mainly park/pipe geared ski where the PE is an all-mountain twin, geared to go and do basically anything.

Personally, I don't even consider graphics when buying a ski, after all the looks have nothing to do with how it skis.

Anyway, your concern about having to get extra length, PE's will only be mounted forward if you want them mounted forward, meaning that suggested mount position should have littel concern with length. Now, the Chronics are pre-drilled for the Line Reactor binding, and I am not 100% sure if it is in a forward location of not.

Basically, my thinking is you might want to look at between 5-10 cm's longer than your 9.22's, because the turned up tail and softer flex will make the skis feel a little shorter than they are.
post #33 of 55
I am a bit amused that a discussion of park skis (for use in SoCal of all places) has come down to graphics...

BTW, Sportsden in SLC has PE's for $289 and Fujatives for $249...My PE's were $302 shipped...If dollars mean more than graphics that is...

Also, the gang-banger, rapper-type on the tail (with the K2 sign around his neck) is supposed to be in the likeness of Flava-flav firm the Rap Group Public Enemy, who just so happened to wear large "clocks" arounds his neck as his early 90's style statement. Quite ridiculous if you ask me, but nevertheless, the source of the graphic. I'm sure I just dated myself with that statement...but I can still land 540's so there!
post #34 of 55
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lol no i kno the graphics and all that arent essential..but i mean whats the point of buying a ski that im embarassed to be seen with ya kno. and my 9.22 are all mountain skis that i can jump with...i just need these for park and aid in teaching while skiing backwards. the chronic is geared for park..so thats good...and ive heard it has some all mountain capability so thats good. if i got one mainly for all mountain id be replacing my 9.22 which isnt really the point. those are great skis..i just need some skis for park and such..
post #35 of 55
i was talkin to my park rat friend and he says AR5's are the most hard core park ski

dont rember if these were mentiond but there you are
post #36 of 55
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Originally Posted by unknownelementx
lol no i kno the graphics and all that arent essential..but i mean whats the point of buying a ski that im embarassed to be seen with ya kno.
Remember, this is SoCal! There are only like < 10 skiers on the local hill on any given day...Being on skis alone makes you the stand-out! Hey, if you
cannot get into the graphics, I understand. I have a pair of Seth Pistols and PE's, so you can tell where I stand on the matter...

I do think that the PE would be a great single quiver ski for you. If you had a pair, you'd likely not need your 9.22's (really). And for Mammoth and the like, the wider, twin PE is a better all-mtn. ski than the 9.22.

You could always just coveer then in stickers.
post #37 of 55
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mmm....i cant ditch my 9.22 ill feel bad....my mommy got those for me
post #38 of 55
dumbest reason ever. Don't like the graphics? you have two options: spray paint or duct tape. Either works.
post #39 of 55
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shut up, did i ask you for your RUDE opinion on my decision? if they are all great skis, i seriously doubt the difference will be felt very radically. rather get a ski like to look at, and prbly never know the difference, than ski on one i hate to look at. and spray paint...not so much..
post #40 of 55
From Line's website, they rate (on a scale 0-5) the Chronic as a 3 in Pow, a 4 on Groomed, 5 in Park, 4 in bumps, and a 4 on a stiffness scale. It should perform pretty well all mountain.

As for the AR5 (Armada), first off they are pretty expensive, so that might be a limiting factor, but I have last years AR5, and I would not put it in the good all-mountain class. Yeah it was great in the park and a lot of fun, but I wasn't a fan of the ski outside the park/pipe.
post #41 of 55
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with my luck.....they probly wont have any avaliable fro pro-form..
post #42 of 55
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Originally Posted by unknownelementx
with my luck.....they probly wont have any avaliable fro pro-form..
Wrong time of year for that. You really want to be looking in Oct/Nov.
post #43 of 55
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no choice....wasnt an instructor then...
post #44 of 55
It seems to me, that if you're new to park skiing you should be looking for a forgiving ski that's going to allow you progress on features. Skis like the Armada AR5, K2 Public Enemy, 4FRNT STL, and Line Chronic are aimed at newschoolers who are already quite advanced and want more performance.

I would have suggested something more along the lines of the Line 1260, Salomon 1080, Rossignol Scratch FS, and K2 Fujative.

Good luck with your choice and have fun!
post #45 of 55
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is there really that much of a difference...i had looked at the k2 fujs...they would be easier to obtain..and cheaper...
but supposedly they perform bad out of park..and id like to be able to ske a bit outta park when necessary..
post #46 of 55
If you are buying a ski more for park, buy a park oriented ski, like the K2 Fujative. it won't be that bad outside of the park, considering you want a park specific ski. You'll put up with the park oriented performance because that's what you are looking for.

What will probably happen regardless of what ski you buy is that you will like the wider ski feel so much that you will end up replacing your 9.22 sometime relatively soon (like next fall) with a wider waisted all mountain ski.

So, get a park ski now. just throw down for a K2 Fujative, take the savings on that ski and put a Marker Free 14.0 on it, and enjoy.

Then, when you decide you want a wider all mountain ski, get one.
post #47 of 55
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thanks for the help, that is a very convincing suggestion. im going to wait a week for the line rep..if its possible to obtain the chronics for a good price. then i will...but even non-proform i can get the k2s pretty well within my price range. thanks
post #48 of 55
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Originally Posted by unknownelementx
is there really that much of a difference...i had looked at the k2 fujs...they would be easier to obtain..and cheaper...
but supposedly they perform bad out of park..and id like to be able to ske a bit outta park when necessary..
A difference? Definitely. I just hate to see someone jump on too much ski, get spanked, discouraged, and quit. Hence, I introduce to the world... the Graduated Flex Method (GFM) for park skiing!
post #49 of 55
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finally got the line rep..and the cost is probably equal to that of the K2 fujs non-pro. so if i can get the lines on pro form i think im gonna go with that. plus getting the fujs is prbly equal the hassle since there arent any ski shops round here that have them and the only one is way way up on the hill...

they might be out of the 167s anyways and i might end up with a 157, so theyll prbly be easier on the flex and such, since im not a big guy and my current skis are atomic 160s
post #50 of 55
i know this has been discussed alot before, and sorry for thread stealing, but talking about a park ski that can go all mountain, the salomon has a foam core. compared to a wood core park all mth ski, how big a different does it make? i know that the 1080 sux on ice, but there's not much ice down south. does the foam core make a HUGE different? is it even noticable?
post #51 of 55
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Originally Posted by Strider
i know that the 1080 sux on ice, but there's not much ice down south. does the foam core make a HUGE different? is it even noticable?
Both pairs of my foam-cored 1080s (CR's and Cusson's) are fine on ice. I don't think filling material is to blame here. Edge bevel angles and the pilot are the culprits. Oh, and there's a lot of ice where I ski (Tremblant). The skis are light and snappy, and I like them that way. Core be damned.
post #52 of 55
Some say salli foam cores will not stand up long. they say they break down fast, nad turn the ski into a noodle. wood cores wont lose their feeling. thats what i heard
post #53 of 55
Well, anecdotal evidence can be pretty convincing. I haven't seen statistics that prove it, nor in my own experience (yet another anecdote), it to be the case.
post #54 of 55
when will someone do a research?
take 2 same level style skiers, take say a 1080 and a scratch fs (one foam one foam), compete in the same course and test how well the ski's holding up.
repeat the experience say 50 times with different pairs of same level skiers and i think we'll have a good result...

anyone out there want to try it?

warren, how heavy r u? im quite heavy, so im worried if i get foam core ill kill it faster then i want it to. im183lb, but im not that aggressive
post #55 of 55
Quote:
Originally Posted by Strider
when will someone do a research?
take 2 same level style skiers, take say a 1080 and a scratch fs (one foam one foam), compete in the same course and test how well the ski's holding up.
repeat the experience say 50 times with different pairs of same level skiers and i think we'll have a good result...

anyone out there want to try it?

warren, how heavy r u? im quite heavy, so im worried if i get foam core ill kill it faster then i want it to. im183lb, but im not that aggressive
I will please ship the skis to be included in the test to my house. Boot sole size is currently 325. Also throw in a pair of SX11's just for comparison purposes
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