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post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 
Before I start, I want to make one comment. This forum was SO FREAKIN HARD TO FIND! I knew there had to be something like this, but for the life of me, couldn't find it. Spent days googling and yahooing, tons of different search terms, kept getting online stores, but no good skiing forums. Finally found a link off DCSki.com. I digress...

I'm a 24 year old male, 180lbs, 6-0, athletic, living in DC. I learned to ski in Utah, then moved to Europe for most of my childhood, where I spent 15 years or so skiing the alps (tons of places). I went to college at Duke, so usually only skiied once every two years or so, for about a week at a time.

I want to get back into the sport, but only skiied for one day last year in PA. I'm heading to Breck in January for a week, and am asking for new equipment for Xmas in advance of that trip. Once I have gear, I'll probably go more often with my gf here on the east coast. Snowshoe, Wisp, places like that.

I want a do-anything ski. I'll also be buying new boots. I got fitted for boots and pretty much decided on the Nordica Beast 12's. Thoughts?

As for the skis, I'm considering a couple of different models. Specifically:

K2 Apache Crossfire
K2 Apache X
Rossignal Bandit X
K2 Axis X (2003, new)
Atomic R9 (2003, new)

Any suggestions for a good all-around ski out of those that will handle on both coasts? Further, if I get one of the new K2 models, should I get the integrated binding system?
post #2 of 12
You may want to check out Fischer's RX-6, or RX-8. Both should work well for East and West conditions. The skis you mentioned may be good choices as well but can not comment except that the Atomic R-9 has been around as very popular intermediate ski for a number of years now.

IMHO, intergrated binding systems do not not make much, if any, difference. If you do a search on intergrated bindings here you will find a lot of animated discussion on the subject. You then can decide for yourself.
Good luck!
post #3 of 12
It would help to also know your ski level and speed/terrain preferences. I'm guessing from your background that you are at a high level and are comfortable in steep, varied terrain and different typs of snow conditions.

Your choices are limited to "ski cross-type" skis (other than the R9), which is fine if you plan to spend more than 50% of the time on the groomed. If not the case, I would consider some other types of skis (724 EXP, Legend 4800, etc.).

I am not a fan of the Axis X. Although probably a very good intermediate ski, I thought it was too soft for East Coast ice and had a definite speed limit. If you can find it, I thought last year's Axis XT was an outstanding ski. Stiffer than the Axis X, it is stable at speed and on ice. A good carver, it is smooth, damp (of course), and suprising powerful. I think it is an extremely versatile ski and handles off piste (think Mad River Glen) conditions very, very well. The Apache Crossfire is supposed to be this year's version of the XT (same dimensions). The Apache X is supposed to be a slightly more forgiving version of the Crossfire (same dimensions) and also worth considering. I'd try the XT, Crossfire and Apache X first from your list.

Like most people in this forum, I'd strongly suggest demoing a bunch of choices before deciding on ski. It would be a mistake to buy a ski solely based on biased magazine reviews and other people's experiences. Good luck!
post #4 of 12
Hi Reisin, and welcome!
You may also want to consider the Volkl 5 star or 6 star, and drop the Rossi Bandit X in favour of the B2
post #5 of 12

I ski the R9 and love it. Although a bit older than yourself, I'm the same weight and height. Been skiing for about 15 years myself. Anyway, as far as the R9 goes, it's light, easy turning, and is stable at speed. It will not, like some other skis, kick your a$$ if you don't stay on top of it. Longitudinally, it's pretty flexible, but torsinally, it's stiff, so edge grip on hard pack and ice is not an issue.
post #6 of 12
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the answers guys! A bit more info...

While I learned to ski in the Rockies when I was a wee kid, I haven't skiied out West since. Other than a couple of times here on the East Coast, my skiing has been exclusively in the Alps. I've skiied Chamonix, Arabba/Sella Ronda, St. Moritz, St. Anton, Val D'Isere, Val Thorens, Grindelwald, the Zugspitz, and a dozen others. Fantastics apres ski areas, but very mixed skiing. Europe just doesn't have the snow conditions of the Rockies any more, at least not consistently.

Anyway, while not a racer or anything, I would have categorized myself as "advanced". I relish off piste skiing as well as mogul fields, but good powder skiing can be very rare to come by in Europe. Plus, it's even rarer to come by here on the East Coast, where I'll be spending much of my time skiing now. So I'm thinking I need something with a narrow enough waist to behave on the groomed slopes. Hopefully, in the future, I'll either move out West (something I plan to do at some point), or be able to take enough trips out there to justify a dedicated "fat" ski.

Being young, I always like to do/attempt tricks. We didn't really have "parks" at the time in Europe, so would set up our own ramps to try 180's and 360's. So the last ski's I skied on were Salomon 1080's, which I loved (this was probably when they first came out). However, I understand that the mounting position on 1080's is much farther forward than on a non-park ski, so I'm under the impression it wouldn't be a good choice for an all-mountain ski.

I planned to go to a demo day Friday at Snowshoe, and even bought vouchers for it, but for reasons beyond my control, it just didn't work out. So I may have to buy blind here.

I'm hoping that most of these skis today are high quality and will be an improvement from the sticks I used to ski on. I'm planning to spend a little more than I had planned on boots ($400's for Beast 12's), but still not sure how much to spend on skis. I may be able to save a little by using my old bindings (approx 6 years old markers) from a pair of Dynastar 4X4's I broke in half. Is this a bad idea? I don't remember the model at the moment, but have bindings evolved enough to justify throwing the binding away and purchasing new (it's in good condition)?

Oh, and thanks for the welcome to the board!
post #7 of 12
first of all, you should try Paula's Ski Lovers, either that or Powdermag.com

gapers are welcome there.
post #8 of 12
best advice is " don't get the guys from Montana excited ".
post #9 of 12
Originally Posted by gonzostrike
first of all, you should try Paula's Ski Lovers, either that or Powdermag.com

gapers are welcome there.
Reisen, welcome to Epicski, pardon our troll.
post #10 of 12
Thread Starter 
Originally Posted by telerod15
Reisen, welcome to Epicski, pardon our troll.
Thanks, to be honest, I didn't even really understand the post. I think it might have something to do with tricks/twin tips? Dunno if that's frowned on here or not, but while fun, that's not my main interest. I'm just looking for a quality ski that will handle ok on and off piste, in a variety of conditions. Sort of a do-it-all type ski. I'm more interested in getting my technique back and improving before I worry about tricks.
post #11 of 12
You may want to check out dcski they have a lot of information on ski demos in this area. For example on 1/5 there is a demo day at ski liberty.
post #12 of 12
Gaper is some one who can only watch and gape at good skiers doing their amazing feats. You seem like a pretty good skier but we are almost all gapers to the big mountain locals and other posers who use this term. I'm DCGaper on another forum.
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