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Snow chains req. in Utah --- How to get them?

post #1 of 40
Thread Starter 
I decided to save some money so I went for a regular frontwheel drive rental. I plan, however, if required to slap some snow chains on. Never had to do this before... I live in NYC and although I wish I had to do it (esp. this winter), never had the chance nor the need.

How much does it cost and where can I have the job done? I'll be staying in Sandy, SLC.
post #2 of 40
I don't have an answer for your questions but from my rental experiences most car rental companies don't allow snow chains on their vehicles. Just a friendly heads up .
post #3 of 40
I don't know what you mean by "where can i have the job done". You have to buy the chains and then you put them on when needed. IMO, rent a 4 wheel drive.
post #4 of 40
Most tire shops sell chains and will know the proper size for the tires but like phxsnbder says, the rental company says "NO" which is pretty odd since dot says "required". You might consider the bus up from Sandy?
post #5 of 40
Walmart has'em. You can buy chains that are actually cables. Much lighter and easier to use. They also fit better when clearance between the tire and the undercarriage is an issue. Rental co's don't allow them because of the potential damage to the underside of the car when a large chain is installed, especially if installed too loose. I use the cables vs actual chains, and use a don't ask, don't tell policy. Have only had to install them 2 times over 4 or 5 yrs. If the snow is too bad, I take the bus.
FYI - Installing them is a hassle - laying on the ground in wet snow trying to attach the cables to each other with cold fingers.
Hope this helps
post #6 of 40
Try Les Schwab in Salt Lake 801 908 5300
post #7 of 40
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucky
Try Les Schwab in Salt Lake 801 908 5300
Doesn't Schwab have a policy about buying them back at full price if they go unused?
post #8 of 40
Thread Starter 
Good advice! Thanks guys! BTW, if I have to put them on, the rental company won't have to know. I mean, if the chains are not safe to use no one would put on on their cars. Rentals are no diff ( I hope!)...

I'm not getting a 4x4 cause it's way more exp. and I don't think it's worth it. I might consider it if the retal company runs a special, something I was lucky to get last year on my trip to SLC. I'll see...
post #9 of 40
rental companies Have a no chains ploicy becuse if they are not properly put on they can come loss and do a lot of damage to the under-carriage and drive trian of the car. If you have a frount wheel drive they do go on the front wheels.
post #10 of 40
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Originally Posted by Utah49
If you have a frount wheel drive they do go on the front wheels.
Someone should tell this to the morons in the Southern California mountains.
post #11 of 40
Well, actually, if you want them for traction going downhill then you should put them on the back wheels.
post #12 of 40
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Originally Posted by zion zig zag
Well, actually, if you want them for traction going downhill then you should put them on the back wheels.
If you don't want the rear end of your own car passing you, this is good advice!
post #13 of 40

Check out Advantage Rental car

My friends and I rented a 4x4 for a week (dec 4 to dec 11) for $199 before taxes from Advantage (http://www.arac.com/). We are glad we did it b/c the roads in Alta/Snowbird were pretty bad.

Good luck.

Angel
post #14 of 40
As folks have said...take the bus. Actually you really don't need a rental car at all, that will save quite a bit of money.
post #15 of 40
Ride the bus! Don't be that idiot in a two wheel drive sliding all over trying to get up the canyon.
post #16 of 40
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Originally Posted by Euclide
I'm not getting a 4x4 cause it's way more exp. and I don't think it's worth it.
Did you price a set of chains yet? :
post #17 of 40

Car + bus

If you don't want a 4x4, you could just get a regular car. If 4x4/chains are required, you could just park at the bottom of the canyon and take the bus from there. That's prob the best of both worlds.
post #18 of 40
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Originally Posted by powho
Ride the bus! Don't be that idiot in a two wheel drive sliding all over trying to get up the canyon.
please
also its Utah, the drive up the canyon could be fine & it could snow 2 feet while you are skiing, SHerriffs will ticket you for violating the restriction, FYI.

http://www.rideuta.com/default.aspx
post #19 of 40
Yep. They will also stop you at the bottom or top and then you are out of luck. It only takes one car that can't make it to block traffic or worse cause a nasty accident. There are also avalanche runouts that you really don't want to get stuck in. (OK, now I'm piling on a bit, LOL.)

Side-note, there is nothing wrong with front-wheel drive per se (rwd, don't even go there). Its fwd + crappy all-season radials + people without expereince (not a slam, just a fact that it takes expereince) that causes the problem. I think its a crime that rental companies will not put decent snow tires on the cars. I get up and down LCC and BCC in my Saab w/ snow tires, never even remotely had a problem.

BTW, props for thinking this through _before_ you get to the mouht of the canyon.
post #20 of 40
My first time to SLC I rented a front wheel drive car b/c I had no idea about the drive up the canyon roads - despite the fact that I expicitly asked them about a rack. Since it didn't snow (boohoo) I only had trouble in Alta's parking lot.
post #21 of 40
Thread Starter 
Hey, Powho, easy on the jargon, please... Everyone else, thanks for your input.
post #22 of 40
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Originally Posted by matt_davis
please
also its Utah, the drive up the canyon could be fine & it could snow 2 feet while you are skiing, SHerriffs will ticket you for violating the restriction, FYI.

http://www.rideuta.com/default.aspx
Saw exactly this a few weeks ago, just after the 2' dump on Saturday night. I was headed up LCC in the outback, and at the turn right above tanners flat I saw a FWD rental car come screaming around the corner and plow into the snow bank on the outside of the turn (no traction!) I'm sure he had headed up a day or two before and stayed at the bird and was on his way to the airport. I hope he bought the insurance (it makes that $5 bus ride look REAL attractive....)

L

BTW both driver and passenger were ok....
post #23 of 40
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Originally Posted by zion zig zag
Well, actually, if you want them for traction going downhill then you should put them on the back wheels.
LOL Right that will do you alot of good! Drive up with them on the front tires and down with them on the rear! LOL Now that would be damn funny!

Just keep them on the front.
post #24 of 40
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Originally Posted by bcripe
LOL Right that will do you alot of good! Drive up with them on the front tires and down with them on the rear! LOL Now that would be damn funny!

Just keep them on the front.
You haven't driven down many steep icy hills with chains have you?
post #25 of 40
No I just lived in NW Montana for 18 years, Laramie Wyoming for two, Boise Idaho for two and Anchorage, AK for 12 years. Not much snow, ice or hills in any of those places. ;-)
post #26 of 40
LCC and BCC are not particularly difficult roads to drive on.

I know a guy with a FWD subaru that has been cruising right through the checkpoints, with all season radials no less, for 15 years.

lshull: Are you implying that this guy in a FWD rental car wouldn't have done exactly the same thing in a 4WD rental car? Physics seems to think he would have.
-Garrett
post #27 of 40

BEST snowchain "setup"

Best way to avoid problems is to chain up all four wheels : THAT way there is no question that you'll GET where you're going -- other then for the other drivers who haven't chained up gitting in your way :
post #28 of 40
skiingman, There is no such car as a FWD Subaru. They make all thier cars all wheel drive.
post #29 of 40
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Originally Posted by Utah49
skiingman, There is no such car as a FWD Subaru. They make all thier cars all wheel drive.
Actually -- if you read the owner's manual -- Subaru states install chains on front wheels -- many AWDs are primarily FWD [ for purposes of snow chain installation ]
post #30 of 40
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Originally Posted by Utah49
skiingman, There is no such car as a FWD Subaru. They make all thier cars all wheel drive.
You'd be wrong.
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