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Review: Dalbello Krypton

post #1 of 23
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Long awaited review.

I posted alot about the fit and design of the boot here.

Being in Flexons since 1994, I know what my feet like. Being in the "industry", I have had opportunites to ski alot of boots all either free ot very cheap. I would sooner "pay" for a Flexon than ski another boot for free. With that said...


After my first turn, my thoughts were "I'm home". This boot is a Flexon on steriods, I know thats not a a good word to use with everything going on is sports right now, but this boot had bulked up and is beefer in every way. Anyone whe has ever changed a boot knows there is adjustments to be made, it might take one run, one day, one week or more. Sometimes those adjustments never happen and you go back to your old boot. For those who are in Flexons, these adjustments aren't there, this boots doesn't even take one TURN to adjust to. The boots in a Flexon, your feet will not know any different. The lateral responce of the boots is stiffer than the Fexon was so the ski reaction is more responsive, you will either see more out of you ski or its shortcomings will be exposed.

Boot volume: There has beed alot of concern here. I cannot speek for the stock liner, but using a Thermoflex liner, the fit was tha same as my previous boots, now what were they? For thsoe that were in Flexons, I do not see any worries that you will be swimming in these, for those who couldn't fit in Flexons, unless you have Fred Flintstone feet, you can add these to your shopping list.

All I can say at this point... Flexon who?

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post #2 of 23
Gotta put the Kryptons on my must have list now. Curious, what is the relationship in the shell size of your Krypton contrasted to your shoe size?

I pretty much have always got a 27 shell , and wear a 10 1/2 shoe , maybe an 11 in a jogging shoe. Tried on my neighbors old Tecnicas in a 26, they were a little short, but I bet with work, if I wanted a "World Cup" fit , I could get away with them.Glad you were happy with your purchase. Nothing better than having something you paid for happily validated.
post #3 of 23
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Originally Posted by roundturns
Gotta put the Kryptons on my must have list now. Curious, what is the relationship in the shell size of your Krypton contrasted to your shoe size?

I pretty much have always got a 27 shell , and wear a 10 1/2 shoe , maybe an 11 in a jogging shoe. Tried on my neighbors old Tecnicas in a 26, they were a little short, but I bet with work, if I wanted a "World Cup" fit , I could get away with them.Glad you were happy with your purchase. Nothing better than having something you paid for happily validated.

I have been in an 8/26.0 boot forever, I wear a 9 streetshoe. In the boot design, Glen added another couple of mm's to the boot. a 301mm shell for a 26 is now a 306mm. A 292mm is now (I think) 296mm. Some people might drop down a shell for that "world cup" fit and some might stay. I chose to stay.
post #4 of 23
Thanks for the write up Phil. Sounds like your Flexons are all set to suffer some major separation anxiety...

Seems like it was just as you expected. Could you speak a little more about the flex of your Flexons v. the Krytons? And which model Flexon you *were* on?

ps - how bout a trip report for Huntah in a new thread ?
post #5 of 23
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Originally Posted by Tigerpaw
Thanks for the write up Phil. Sounds like your Flexons are all set to suffer some major separation anxiety...

Seems like it was just as you expected. Could you speak a little more about the flex of your Flexons v. the Krytons? And which model Flexon you *were* on?

ps - how bout a trip report for Huntah in a new thread ?
The Krypton has more life than the Flexon, it is much springier. I noticed that more in flexing the boot than I did on the snow.

As far as Hunter, not worth it, it was good November conditions, unfortunatly, it was December. But you can read more in the 'Huntah 12/5" thread in resorts.
post #6 of 23
Couldn't fit the Flexon instep, is the krypton instep any higher?
post #7 of 23
: : It is good to hear that the Flexon concept lives on in a new and improved way.
post #8 of 23
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This has made it all around the Dalbello offices. Kewl.
post #9 of 23
Phil, aren't you too old to spell cool "kewl"?
post #10 of 23
What about that instep, Phil? IM me... Who is going to have them out here?
post #11 of 23
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Originally Posted by JFonz
Couldn't fit the Flexon instep, is the krypton instep any higher?
Haven't been in the Krypton yet. However, both boots are both similar in concept. On the Flexon an instep mod can be very easily accomplished by any good bootfitter. The shell over the instep is heated and the slot that is otherwise covered by the tongue is simply opened up somewhat to accomodate a higher instep. The boot board can also be ground down to place the foot lower in the shell although this may impact how the boot fits along the side of your foot. Or a combination of both techniques can be used depending on how major the instep issue is.
post #12 of 23
thats good to hear for the flexon lovers out there and i like the push in the ads using Plake.
But one question pops up in viewing the ad "a race proven design perfected..."
when did Dalbello ever have race boots or are they acknowledging the Raichle design and why even mention race when the vast majority of buyers of this boot are going to be "freeride" guys.
post #13 of 23
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Originally Posted by waxman
thats good to hear for the flexon lovers out there and i like the push in the ads using Plake.
But one question pops up in viewing the ad "a race proven design perfected..."
when did Dalbello ever have race boots or are they acknowledging the Raichle design and why even mention race when the vast majority of buyers of this boot are going to be "freeride" guys.
RACE is still a marketing buzzword. "Win on Sunday, Sell on Monday" ect. I imagine the "race proven design" goes back to the Flexons days on the world cup winning downhills. It's history also includes being one of the best mogul boots too.
post #14 of 23
Phil, any further thoughts on the boot? Anything about it that you would change?
post #15 of 23
What is the flex like? I remember loving the Flexon & skiing/racing in it for years ( like back in 1987 or so/ red & black version ), yet when I had the chance to ski a new version (around 2001/ the SL version/updated) 2 things were very obv. first the flex was way soft & mushy for the way today's (or 2001's) skis are driven & edged higher. The boot was next to useless on hardpack & ice...this was at Hunta baby!!! The second was that the boot retained the flexed forward ankle position and really made you feel like you were sitting in a chair (way back seat!) It was quite an exp. I felt like the boot would not support my wt (like all 140 lbs of me), yet I was unable to support myself b/c I could not stand up due to the excessive forward lean. Skiing that boot was prob. the strangest exp. I'd had on snow in a long while ; & my friends laughed their asses off!!
At the time, I concluded that the design, while once great, had just not kept up with the demands of today's skiing (taller stance, increased lateral stiffness, increased foward flex/stiffness).
With all the above mentioned negative comments, I must admitt that I am very interested to see how this new krypton plays out. Has Dalbello addressed any of these issues in bringing this design back to market? It seems that if they beefed up the plastic & stood the boot up, they would have a killer boot & a real alt. to the present overlap crowd.
post #16 of 23
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Having some more time in the boot I have some more to add. First, Iriponsnow, The Flexon Slalom was NOT a good boot (think "New Coke"). Second, the origional Flexon braved the storm and had the best lateral design for todays skiing style, lateral vs. up/down. I have the Krypton Pro, it comes with 2 tongues and the ability with shims to control the flex on the shell. Even the softer of the 2 tongues in stiffer than the DD Flexon tongue. I personally don't like a (forward) stiff boot, so I have them set up on the softer side but htis has the ability to be set up muuuch stiffer than I would ever want. I would have been fine in the Cross

Back to some more snow time in the Krypton...

As laterally stiff as the Flexon was, the Krypton is stiffer and much more responsive. Just the ease of the buckles is worth the price of admission coming from the Flexon. On the snow, you feet will feel like they are on the Flexon, on the snow, you know you are in much more. I have yet to take them in any bumps but for high speed and long radious turns it holds the ski on the snow better than the Flexon clould, to the point where I felt I could over power the ski. In short turns, where I felt other boots weren't nearly as responsive as the Flexon, the Krypton bounces, cat like, from turn to turn. Just stanking in a Flexon and Krypton on each foot, I can feel the liife in the boot where the Flexon feels like it has no rebounds.

I think Glen and Dalbello addressed the shortcomings of the Flexon, heck the boot was 20 years old in design and built upon the streaths if the boot. Am I biased? Maybe, until you get in the boot and ski it, you cannot disagree with what I am saying.
post #17 of 23
Phil is right about the Flexon SL. It was around for I think one or two seasons only then abandoned in favor of the "Classic" Flexon.
post #18 of 23
agreed about the Flexon SL, it was not quite up to par with the original. Like I mentioned before I am interested in seeing what happens. (I also seem to be collecting boots at this point). 2 follow up questions: does anyone have the boot instock in the Sugarbush to Killington area? & how small are they making the boot?
I typically run a mondo 24 or 285-ish mm shell
thankx & think snow
post #19 of 23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iriponsnow
agreed about the Flexon SL, it was not quite up to par with the original. Like I mentioned before I am interested in seeing what happens. (I also seem to be collecting boots at this point). 2 follow up questions: does anyone have the boot instock in the Sugarbush to Killington area? & how small are they making the boot?
I typically run a mondo 24 or 285-ish mm shell
thankx & think snow
I am not sure if they are being produced in a 24 shell yet, I think a 25 might be the smallest. I will check this and and post my findings. Next year the womans line will be out, then we will see a "full" line of shells. I know Okemo, who is a Dalbello dealer, is not carrying them, I am not sure about Killington area.
post #20 of 23
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Originally Posted by JFonz
Couldn't fit the Flexon instep, is the krypton instep any higher?
After dragging my 16 y.o. son into every ski shop in town - trying on boot after boot - including the Krypton:

If you need a narrow boot with a higher instep, try the Lange Comp 120 MF. My son tried on the Krypton and his first reaction was how much "snugger" the Krypton was over the instep (a good thing for him, as the Lange MF had too much instep volume). However, in the end, the Krypton was just too wide overall for his foot, and he ended up with a Comp 120 LF (low fit). The Krypton may still work for someone with a SOMEWHAT narrow foot and lower instep, but his measures a 12 (29.5) "A" width.

FWIW, he wasn't excited about the Krypton after trying it on. Aside from being too wide (not the boot's fault), he just said it didn't feel "comfy". Perhaps it just was too far from being the correct shape for his unique foot.

Unfortunately his trial has eliminated the Krypton from my shopping list too, as we have nearly identically shaped feet (mine's just a size bigger). I was excited to find it in stock locally, as Phil had me thinking it might work for my low volume foot (plus it looks good - classy without being gaudy). I still may try it if I can find someone with my size in stock.

AM.
post #21 of 23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese
I am not sure if they are being produced in a 24 shell yet, I think a 25 might be the smallest. I will check this and and post my findings.
Yep, As I thought, the smallest shells out there at this point are the 25's. The 24's will be a late production addition.
post #22 of 23
Just got a new pair of Krypton's in the Cross flavor but haven't been able to ski them yet. Sold a pair of Lange Banshee110's to get them and hope the higher cuff helps the lack of responsiveness I felt with the Lange's. I'm 6'6" and 180lbs with a skinny leg. Did the shell fit and had them on for an hour in the shop in which they definately seemed to fit my calf better. I hope this one does the trick!
post #23 of 23
Phil,

Thought I'd get your thought here. I wear a 30.5 (shoe 13) in 5 year old Technica Icon Carbons. I usually have toebox problems with sides of little toes often feeling pressure in all boots. I also have knee issues. I was looking for a smoother less stiff flex. My shop guy has ordered a pair of the Krypton Cross in 29.5 which is the longest size. He thinks the boot might size longer than indicated. I've read this may fit too narrow (to even bother to modify for me?). Your thoughts on the potential fit issues of this boot? Any suggestions on other boots? Thanks
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