Originally Posted by Rusty Guy
I don't have enough speed or pitch to bend the ski.
In this case, invert or rotate the inside leg?
Rusty, Try invert a little bit and allow.... (see below).
If you feel the need to twist'em at slow speed, maybe your first movement is the less efficient than another could be.
Originally Posted by nolo
I respectfully disagree that one of these actions is secondary to the other, Arc. I see them as mutually dependent. If you tip your inside foot to the outside edge, the inside leg must externally rotate to some degree. External rotation to me implies a bunch of circular cartoon arrows going around the thigh. The femur is rotating in the hip socket away from the median. The tipping of the inside foot/external rotation of the femur enables the outside edge to hook up (lightly, lightly) which enables the inside ski to guide the outside ski, which makes it unnecessary to steer the outside ski.
Nolo, let me try and clarify my thoughts from a slow speed, flat terrain, low energy perspective.
I really agree with what you describe happening, Nolo, but I want to allow this as much as possible as an effect (kinetic chain recruited) of the inverting cause of the inside foot (just enough....). Should I have to think about moving my leg so I can move my foot? Or doesn't the body genius knows how to enable and support a clear intent for the foot far better than I can direct it to? Allowing vs causing? So maybe I just percieve that the movements need to be ordered and inter-related more easily than mutually dependant?
I find, especially at low speed speed, that an order of movement that starts with the feet to works most easilly and effectively. Ease of skiing at slow speed is a pretty fair test of accuracy and efficiency of order of movement.
When I invert what will be the new inside foot (just enough) as my first movement, this gets a number of good things working for me. First, it gets the skis (increased sidecut steering effect (not big carving effect)) working for me, especially at low edge angles, when you really need it. Second, these initial movements of the foot produce input to the ski that are small and accurate vs large and vague (leg) with a softer engagment throughout the whole body. Third, (Rusty note) once the skis are initially engaged (even a little) they offer easilly controllable directional integrity (go there) that an initial rotary impulse precludes (pivoted to don't go there).
I would prefer (and love) to be on snow with you guys/gals exploring a just enough of this, as that is where the answers lurk for each of us to further discover.