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Anyone else get the feeling it will be a bad PNW winter?

post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 
Boy, I am starting to get anxious here in the Northwest. No snow-the "big storm" that was supposed to drop up to 15 inches this weekend now might add up to only 6, and that is if we are lucky. This following one of the driest Novembers in history. And in rolls the Pineapple express next week, and long term outlook for dry and warm weather!

Due to fairly reliable snow (until recently) snowmaking isn't a fixture here in the Northwest, but it might have to be in the near future. This could be the 3rd bad winter in the last 5. Anyone else feeling frustrated? Boy, what I wouldn't give even for some manmade snow right now!
post #2 of 22
dwgcatching,
I share your grief.
Its finally starting to snow some at Mt. Baker but even they have less than three feet at present. 49 degrees North has 6"to 16" and everywhere else in the PNW seems to have about that or less.:

On the bright side this season's El Nino should produce great spring snow.
post #3 of 22
Bachy my home hill is @ 19" It's not much but at least we can ski. The Pineapple Express has got me a little concerned. One good rain and it's all over but the tears. On a good note it is snowing this AM on the Mt.
post #4 of 22
Nope, too busy REALISING that it's gonna be a terrible winter here in the Mid Atlantic.
post #5 of 22
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even they have less than three feet at present
Try moving to PA :
post #6 of 22
HI:
Just to say I'm runing out the door in Whistler...24 last night and 45 on the storm board...
PS what kind of vehicle are you driviing.?
post #7 of 22
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Originally Posted by Lostboy
dwgcatching,
I share your grief.
Its finally starting to snow some at Mt. Baker but even they have less than three feet at present. 49 degrees North has 6"to 16" and everywhere else in the PNW seems to have about that or less.:

On the bright side this season's El Nino should produce great spring snow.
Well Mt. Baker is doing better and just about every other ski area in Oregon and Washington is now getting some snow. Let's just hope that the temps remain below freezing.
post #8 of 22
Yeah, I'm getting cranky, too. But I'm not giving up hope, not yet.

It's snowing on Mt. Hood right now, and supposed to continue through Wednesday. Keeping my fingers crossed.
post #9 of 22
Even if the beginning of the season is bad, we may get whalloped by plenty of snow later. One year recently it was terrible until the first week of February and then the heavens opened and we got a ton of snow. Don't give up hope.
post #10 of 22
I'm ready....... should be skiing .. and getting tired of watching ski DVDs with my kids, rock skis tuned and ready to go.

If I remember correctly, the Farmer's Almanac called for a slow start, but predicts some decent weather "events" in late Dec. and Jan.. Feb and March wil produce some good precip and below norm temps....

Will hit Baker and Whistler over Xmass.. hope they keep getting hit!
post #11 of 22
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Originally Posted by sno'more
Yeah, I'm getting cranky, too.
http://nimbo.wrh.noaa.gov/total_fore...x=161&map.y=58
post #12 of 22
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Originally Posted by Lostboy
On the bright side this season's El Nino should produce great spring snow.
I'm not sure where you get your weather forecasts, but CPC calls for above normal temperatures throughout the winter and spring, with lower than normal snowfall for December through February.
post #13 of 22
in the 6 years I've lived in Zooloo, I've seen these conditions at this time of year EVERY YEAR.

I'm not so sure it's a bad start. Patience, my good Dawg. Patience.
post #14 of 22
Bachelor was pretty good this weekend and they've picked up seven today, with more on the way. Here's a snip fron NWS forcast discussion:

LATEST GFS SAGS THE ENTIRE ZONE DIRECTLY OVER SW WASHINGTON AND NW OREGON FRI NIGHT AS NORTH BRANCH AND SOUTH BRANCH CONVERGE. DO NOT WANT TO JUMP ON THAT SOLUTION JUST YET. ALL IN ALL IT LOOKS LIKE MORE OF A TYPICAL PAC NW PATTERN...UNLIKE THE DRY NOVEMBER. WEISHAAR &&
post #15 of 22
My gut it telling my you are going to have a MONSTER year in the Pacific NORTH WEST!!!!!
post #16 of 22
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Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese
My gut it telling my you are going to have a MONSTER year in the Pacific NORTH WEST!!!!!


OOOOFFFFF.

Sorry,

That was gas


Good new though......


I did save alot on money on my ski equipement this year!
post #17 of 22
I'm getting a little anxious myself being the first year I've purchased a season pass (Mt. Hood Meadows) and purchase all new ski gear after 10 years of snowboarding. Went boarding at Bachelor Saturday... more snow and less rocks than I thought there would be. It's cool and cloudy in Portland now, hoping to get more tonight!!!
post #18 of 22
it seems Baker in full operation. I’m going there probably Wednesday.
Just think about 02/03 season which started even slower than current one but at the end we had pretty good skiing.
Though looks like places below 4,000' are losers this season.
post #19 of 22
Full coverage or not, some people just can't wait...

http://www.komotv.com/stories/34260.htm
post #20 of 22
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Originally Posted by Harry_Morgan
I'm not sure where you get your weather forecasts, but CPC calls for above normal temperatures throughout the winter and spring, with lower than normal snowfall for December through February.
I rely on the forcast that is most optimistic like many skiers do.

In particular I relied on a forecast that predicts a relatively mild El Nino this year whose effects should dissipate by February in the PNW. An increase in precipitation can coincide with cold air that does move down from Canada, even if overall the jet stream dips down somewhat less consistantly during the early winter months owing to El Nino's blocking effect.

According to this forcast, it takes only two such big storm events to actually result in an increase in annual snowfall for the season despite a mild El Nino. Of course, I like to think that the artic jet stream will dip down to confront the expected increased precipitation at just the right moments and that by Spring things should be normal at all events.
post #21 of 22

Crystal opens Saturday!! December 11th

12/8/2004
Crystal opens Saturday!!
Mother Nature just hit us hard with 26" of new snow overnight!! Crystal will open Saturday, December 11th with Chinook Express, Forest Queen, Rainier Express & Green Valley lifts in operation. See you on the slopes...
post #22 of 22
Thread Starter 
Short term looks great-lots of snow has fallen here! Long term not so good-rain through the weekend, dry and warm (40's on the hill) the week following. But, at least we have enough snow now (50-inch base) to withstand some rain and warm weather!
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