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post #301 of 437
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Originally Posted by Yukon
lots of cayennes where i live even more the touareg's

touareg is an african tribe.

M5 is a sweet car if i had to get a CAr thatd be the one i want a BMW M5
There's an M6 coming ...

http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/041215/4/1xe3z.html
post #302 of 437

Jeep

My top choice is my 1980 Jeep CJ-5, AMC 360 V-8. I just wish I had the time and the $$ to get the Jeep done. So in the meantime I bought a '01 Blazer ZR2, factory 31" tires w/ plenty of ground clearance. But it doesn't even hold a candle to my Jeep. Quite honestly though if you ever owned a Jeep you wouldn't even be having this conversation. Seriously though I would highly suggest one of the new Jeep Rubicon Wranglers, the CJ's are cold and are a lot of work, but I'm a diehard Jeep guy. But I guess if you are searching for a car then its out of the question for ya, or perhaps the longer version of the Wrangler, the Unlimited.
post #303 of 437
I drive a 2003 Honda Accord with 4-Nokian Studded Snow tires. This car is awesome in the snow.

I have also rented a a ski package setup from Hertz Ford Taurus with snow tires and taken it up over Teton Pass between SLC and JH. For all you folks that spent thousands of extra dollars on AWD or 4WD you wasted your money. Save your money and buy the best snow tires you can find. IMHO that is.

If you must buy an AWD buy a Subaru Outback or Legacy. With snow tires the only problems you will have is the other folks driving 4WD/AWD with bald tires because they spent all their money on an over priced 4WD that gets 10 miles per gallon on a good day.
post #304 of 437
A friend of mine lived on a farm with a very steep drive, when they got snowed on it was a nightmare. The company he worked for changed their cars at around 40,000 miles. He covered c.a. 50,000 miles a year and so went through a lot of different cars. The worst car for getting up the drive in winter was a turbo charged front wheel drive Rover 620 (the same car with rear wheel drive would of been much worse). It was just too difficult to get right amount of power down without the sports tyres spinning.

A lot is technique in the snow as he proved to me by getting my then rear wheel drive (with normal summer tyres) up his drive after a substantial snow fall.

Most people I have seen sliding about in the snow on the alpine mountain approach roads just don't understand how to drive in the snow. Learning the right technique and getting decent winter wheels (with back up snowchains) will probably be better (and cheaper) for many than just buying a 4WD/AWD car/truck.
post #305 of 437
I am not disputing that this is very necisary <(sp) in mountains where there are foot of snow drops often. but in most places a good four wheel drive that is properly taken care of, and with a competant driver will be better then many front wheel drives.
but here we cant use, or have the need for chains of studs. and for some reason all the BMW's are getting snow tires on them now.
once the snow gets over a certain level, its the truck with the best tires-best driver that will always win as brian said

And to metal man jeep wrangler<Landrover Defender
post #306 of 437
TOUAREG is a VW car

TUAREG is nomadic tribe
post #307 of 437
i looked it up he's right
post #308 of 437
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Originally Posted by DangerousBrian
Most people I have seen sliding about in the snow on the alpine mountain approach roads just don't understand how to drive in the snow. Learning the right technique and getting decent winter wheels (with back up snowchains) will probably be better (and cheaper) for many than just buying a 4WD/AWD car/truck.
See, what you are suggesting is that the best solution to the problem is education, experience, and skill. Rather than just spending money on hyped up equipment.

Sorry, but that just isn't the American way. Don't ever suggest an American can solve a problem with more education, they'll take offense.
post #309 of 437
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Originally Posted by skiingman
Sorry, but that just isn't the American way. Don't ever suggest an American can solve a problem with more education, they'll take offense.

YOU KNOW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!






post #310 of 437
Thread Starter 
gee i thought "Touareg" " was German For Less ego stroke then a Cyanne.

ryan it's to bad i sold my old Toyota Pickup. You would have loved it.
post #311 of 437

Got the $$$?

Cost no object?

Mercedes Benz
G55 AMG
AMG-built 5.5L supercharged 24-valve V-8 engine
469 hp @ 6,100rpm
516 lb-ft @ 2,650-4500 rpm
0-60 mph in 5.5 seconds
Base MSRP: $100,620.00 :

Bong
post #312 of 437
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Originally Posted by DangerousBrian
An M6 can hardly be considered a "Good Snow Car"
post #313 of 437
You're all way off. The Kenworth Pilgrimage is the only way to go.
www.poseur.4x4.org or http://www.thecarconnection.com/inde...7&article=1675

(Seems to be a problem at the host)
post #314 of 437
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Originally Posted by skiingman
See, what you are suggesting is that the best solution to the problem is education, experience, and skill. Rather than just spending money on hyped up equipment.

Sorry, but that just isn't the American way. Don't ever suggest an American can solve a problem with more education, they'll take offense.
I do agree in areas that you can get by with the 2WD with snow tires go for it, however, in Cali during a storm and sometimes after storms you will not be let through a check point unless you have chains on or have AWD/4WD with M/S rated tires.

For me AWD/4WD saves at least 40 minutes on a trip possibly in both directions (80 min total) maybe even more. Plus you don't have to hang around freezing your a** off and running the risk that some numb nut clips you on the way by as you are putting your chains on, on the side of a major interstate.

Studies have been done that basically show that AWD provides better traction for acceleration and for some types of steering. AWD and FWD have breaking distnaces of about the same with winter tires.

I have AWD for convenience. Different strokes for different folks.

Cheers!
post #315 of 437
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Originally Posted by SKEEMEISTER
I do agree in areas that you can get by with the 2WD with snow tires go for it, however, in Cali during a storm and sometimes after storms you will not be let through a check point unless you have chains on or have AWD/4WD with M/S rated tires.
Just because Cali is a nanny state does not mean the rest of us have to follow their lead.
post #316 of 437
To coin a phrase from Epic Ski how many drivers are experts? Had any formal training? Besides Drivers Ed. Have you driven more than 3 million miles? Not likely. Ever driven anything bigger than P/U w/ 4 doors? Instead of relying on commom sense and experience people think that technology and sometimes size will make the difference. Professionals don't over drive the conditions regardless of what or where they are driving.
post #317 of 437
For the swollen ego, maybe this will help.http://www.internationaldelivers.com...severe/cxt.asp
post #318 of 437
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Originally Posted by Atomicman
An M6 can hardly be considered a "Good Snow Car"
Didn't say it was.
post #319 of 437
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Originally Posted by Atomicman
An M6 can hardly be considered a "Good Snow Car"
Depends what kind of "snow" you're talking about. Let's face it, a good powder day to a 3/5/6 series owner means they've had a nose for a good line, and cut some fresh tracks, but it's about the finest Colombian powder, not the Utah variety...
post #320 of 437
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Originally Posted by Dark Horse
For the swollen ego, maybe this will help.http://www.internationaldelivers.com...severe/cxt.asp
Egos, Attitudes and Aggressive manners are the sign of a immature dangerous driver.
post #321 of 437
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Originally Posted by Dark Horse
For the swollen ego, maybe this will help.http://www.internationaldelivers.com...severe/cxt.asp

I'll bite on that one over most of the ego building suggestions I have seen on this thread. It was said back in the 60's that International put itself out of the pick-up truck business by buiding a truck that users couldn't wear out quick enough to keep the company's sales alive. I remember plenty of them around during the 70's that their owners swore by. ...They rattled and creaked and looked like a dinosaur, but kept on plugging away.

This new International looks to me like a much better choice than a Hummer H2 or one of those six figure Mercedes. ...I have a new dream vehicle to pant over!!!
post #322 of 437
Somehwat sad epilogue...International just sold the hallowed Scout name to Daimler-Chrysler, who plans to make a small Jeep unit-body awd under that name.
post #323 of 437
I am going from an AWD A4 Avant w/ 4 snows to a FWD V50 w/4 snows and I am no concered...at least for my needs. 3-4 trips to VT and the way VT takes care of the roads, it will be fine.
post #324 of 437
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Originally Posted by Wear The Fox Hat
Depends what kind of "snow" you're talking about. Let's face it, a good powder day to a 3/5/6 series owner means they've had a nose for a good line, and cut some fresh tracks, but it's about the finest Colombian powder, not the Utah variety...
I nose what your talkin' 'bout! Absolutely!!!
post #325 of 437
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Originally Posted by DangerousBrian
Didn't say it was.
Did you forget what the thread was about 'cuz you had your snout in the snow?
post #326 of 437
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Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese
I am going from an AWD A4 Avant w/ 4 snows to a FWD V50 w/4 snows and I am no concered...at least for my needs. 3-4 trips to VT and the way VT takes care of the roads, it will be fine.
How do you like the V50? I think its a sharp looking car. I drive my fwd Saab 9-3 Viggen w/ snows everywhere. Never close to getting stuck -- about the only issue is the low front air dam. A good 2 feet unplowed and I'd pull out our WRX. (Actually, for BCC and LCC on powder days too.)
post #327 of 437
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Originally Posted by Wear The Fox Hat
Depends what kind of "snow" you're talking about. Let's face it, a good powder day to a 3/5/6 series owner means they've had a nose for a good line, and cut some fresh tracks, but it's about the finest Colombian powder, not the Utah variety...
Hey, whats the differnce between a Porcupine and a BMW?
post #328 of 437
i give up
post #329 of 437
One has the prick on the inside....
post #330 of 437
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Originally Posted by slider
Professionals don't over drive the conditions regardless of what or where they are driving.
Yup. This is why the entire concept that a four wheel drive vehicle is somehow "safer" in the snow is utter baloney.
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