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post #271 of 437
12/13/04 at 5:08pm

Cars are for Weenies

Cars are for weenies. Get a locker on the mountain, get yourself a pair of these, http://www.suomityres.fi/bike/winter/index.html, and take your mountain bike.

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post #272 of 437
12/13/04 at 7:59pm
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Originally Posted by KeithMDR
Thanks SkiingMan

Yep looked at the Dodge web site and they have two AWD versions. Even has a cold weather option with an engine block heater. A “Nice to have” feature if I am in some of that really cold stuff in Utah etc.

Was really surprised that the mileage did not go up much and that the towing capacity is so low. I guess I expected more advances in the last 10 years of automotive advancement. But I still like it. With a coffin-box on the roof to carry the ski's and son's snowboard etc. we would do OK.

Starts at 33k and then a few extras and tax takes it up some. A little less than the VW Tourog and more of a car for the city part of my life.
Cool. Block heater is a waste of electricity in Utah, although I use synthetic oil whenever temps are going to go below 0. Both are probably equal wastes of money. Neither is needed. Block heaters are certainly cheap enough to buy, but they use a lot of power. They are really for the people that get to see Celsius and Fahrenheit match each other.

The mileage is pretty disappointing, regardless of the engine option you choose. Its a nice car though, and darn useful.
-Garrett
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post #273 of 437
12/14/04 at 6:23am
Ultimate ski vehicle?? Depends on the number of people, I don't think anything can beat a stripped out short school bus with 10 people going up. However with just two people and dry roads my friends 944 is amazing fun going to and coming back from the resorts.
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post #274 of 437
12/14/04 at 6:42pm
Okay skiing...cars



COol and all but i would rather talk about the skiing part





GO JEEPS PEACE OUT
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post #275 of 437
12/15/04 at 9:07am
I drive with pride "Colorado's Official Snow Car"- 2001 Subaru Outback LL Bean (v6). Purchased with the PSIA discount. What a snow goat & sweet ride!!!
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post #276 of 437
12/15/04 at 11:43am
WRX Wagon! With the stock turbo and gutted uppipe boost starts at under 2K Rpm's and is full by 3K. For under $1000 you can have 280hp.
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post #277 of 437
12/15/04 at 1:49pm
Hmm

It seams that Hybrids are going to get tax credits.

Once this one is approved for the tax credit…

http://pressroom.toyota.com/photo_li...5Highlander2_r

the Highlander is the ticket… I think. $25 k to $30 k

Info says can seat 7 People. Not bad. And still not a van or minivan.!

Keith
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post #278 of 437
12/15/04 at 1:58pm
PS If you can afford $50k for a set of wheels ...
The new LR3 will make a Hummer wimper with off road envy.

http://www.landroverusa.com/us/en/Ve...3/Overview.htm

Nice. I sat in one yesterday. Lots of room in each of the 7 seats. Strong. Fits into a parking space. Lots of cool features.

Down side. Fuel bill and monthly payments.

Gotta think big somtimes. Maybe I'll go buy a lotto ticket. I like that car.
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post #279 of 437
12/15/04 at 8:05pm
^ if you win can you get me one too??? or mabey an old Discovery :
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post #280 of 437
12/16/04 at 7:35am
A few weeks ago I saw the ultimate ski vehicle, a Porshe Cayenne turbo (drove probably 40 (being a valet has its advantages) but still don't know how its spelled) with a HUGE ski box on top. If anything is better than that I haven't seen it, if you got the 75 g's to fork over.
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post #281 of 437
12/16/04 at 8:02am
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Originally Posted by neufox47
A few weeks ago I saw the ultimate ski vehicle, a Porshe Cayenne turbo (drove probably 40 (being a valet has its advantages) but still don't know how its spelled) with a HUGE ski box on top. If anything is better than that I haven't seen it, if you got the 75 g's to fork over.
The turbo is over 100 G
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post #282 of 437
12/16/04 at 8:11am
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Originally Posted by Atomicman
The turbo is over 100 G
That's a lot of dough for a souped-up Tourag.
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post #283 of 437
12/16/04 at 8:51am
^ you is spending 50k for about 100 more HP and a porsch badge, and a better 0-60 time.

not worth it IMHO

but would i rather have it then a Toureg? sure if it wasn't my $$$
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post #284 of 437
12/16/04 at 8:58am
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Originally Posted by RotoFury
That's a lot of dough for a souped-up Tourag.
Cayenne shares the same unibody, but suspension and engine are Porsche (except V6). Have driven both on same course at same speed. Cayenne took the corners with downshifts ("paddles" on the steering wheel) and acceleration through the sweepers. Even with downshifting, the Toureg had to back off the throttle and brake to control understeer. Seriously considering the Cayenne, but tired of driving SUV's all the time. V6 Cayenne is seriously underpowered and has a hard time moving nearly 6,000lbs of truck- same for Touareg, but VW trans/gearing is "snappier". Brakes are awesome on all. For a large vehicle, the Cayenne handles incredibly well (lots of computer control), but it is still a "pig". Wish it was available downsized in a 2-door version.
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post #285 of 437
12/16/04 at 9:02am
For the record


Touareg


Cayenne
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post #286 of 437
12/16/04 at 9:04am
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Originally Posted by Yukon
For the record


Touareg
ooops... guess I don't need to use the edit button anymore
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post #287 of 437
12/16/04 at 9:13am
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Originally Posted by medmarkco
Cayenne shares the same unibody, but suspension and engine are Porsche (except V6). Have driven both on same course at same speed. Cayenne took the corners with downshifts ("paddles" on the steering wheel) and acceleration through the sweepers. Even with downshifting, the Toureg had to back off the throttle and brake to control understeer. Seriously considering the Cayenne, but tired of driving SUV's all the time. V6 Cayenne is seriously underpowered and has a hard time moving nearly 6,000lbs of truck- same for Touareg, but VW trans/gearing is "snappier". Brakes are awesome on all. For a large vehicle, the Cayenne handles incredibly well (lots of computer control), but it is still a "pig". Wish it was available downsized in a 2-door version.
Ok so just so we're clear, the above text is confirming my jest that the Cayanne is essentially a souped-up Toureg, right?
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post #288 of 437
12/16/04 at 10:00am
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Originally Posted by RotoFury
Ok so just so we're clear, the above text is confirming my jest that the Cayanne is essentially a souped-up Toureg, right?
Yes... in the same way an A4 is the same as an RS4, or a Caddy CTS is the same as a CTS-V. I wouldn't consider a CTS, but the "V" adds enough braking and ride control that it raises the car to another level. Have a low mileage 944 Turbo in the garage that I play with in the summers and in my opinion it is one of the best handling cars ever, so I appreciate brakes and suspension. The $ difference between a V8 Touareg and a Cayenne S isn't all that much- for the difference I'd choose the Cayenne. Not sure it is my ultimate ski vehicle though, because slick roadways don't provide much opportunity to use the strengths of the vehicle. And as a fair-weather vehicle- I'd rather have a Carrera.

...next suggestion... what about a C4S? Not enough ground clearance for the bigger snows. Even with AWD still have to wait for the plows to come out.
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post #289 of 437
12/16/04 at 10:04am
Fair weather, it's the M5 all the way for me.
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post #290 of 437
12/16/04 at 10:08am
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Originally Posted by RotoFury
Fair weather, it's the M5 all the way for me.
Excellent car! Too big for what I want it for though.
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post #291 of 437
12/16/04 at 10:19am
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Originally Posted by medmarkco
ooops... guess I don't need to use the edit button anymore
for a bonus question:

who knows what VW is making a wordplay on, with its SUV name?
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post #292 of 437
12/16/04 at 10:24am
Toureg is a European term for a nomadic tribe, I believe from the Northern Africa region, though I am not sure of their location.
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post #293 of 437
12/16/04 at 10:46am
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Originally Posted by epic
Dodge Magnum could be nice too.
low ground clarence,rear wheel drive and wide performance tires do not make good ski vehicles
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post #294 of 437
12/16/04 at 11:23am
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Originally Posted by troller
low ground clarence,rear wheel drive and wide performance tires do not make good ski vehicles
Not to dispute your entire point, but the Magnum RT is AWD.
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post #295 of 437
12/16/04 at 12:01pm
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Originally Posted by neufox47
A few weeks ago I saw the ultimate ski vehicle, a Porshe Cayenne turbo (drove probably 40 (being a valet has its advantages) but still don't know how its spelled) with a HUGE ski box on top. If anything is better than that I haven't seen it, if you got the 75 g's to fork over.
I think the Cayenne Turbo is more in the 100K+ category. The sport is more in the range of what you are talking.

Cheers!
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post #296 of 437
12/16/04 at 12:09pm
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Originally Posted by SKEEMEISTER
I think the Cayenne Turbo is more in the 100K+ category. The sport is more in the range of what you are talking.

Cheers!
Base, the V6 is under 50, Cayenne S is under 60, and the Turbo is around 90. Typcial "S" with options is between 65-75. (less discounting- and there was a period about a year ago when sales were slow and money talked.) At least that was when I last looked at them this summer. Low mileage Turbos can resale around $75. Cayenne's initially didn't resale very well. Getting a little better now.
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post #297 of 437
12/16/04 at 1:54pm

Porche C4S

I had one. Great car with superb handling and fine acceleration.

Not much room for gear if you take someone with you.

No maintenance is covered: you pay for everything with a Porsche. A set of rear tires cost me about $1400!

I'd get a BMW X or M instead.
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post #298 of 437
12/16/04 at 4:38pm
lots of cayennes where i live even more the touareg's

touareg is an african tribe.

M5 is a sweet car if i had to get a CAr thatd be the one i want a BMW M5
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post #299 of 437
12/16/04 at 8:20pm
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Originally Posted by RotoFury
Fair weather, it's the M5 all the way for me.
Too heavy and slow for a fair weather vehicle.

Fair weather vehicle should be able to do the 1/4 mile in around 11 secs, be over 3300 lbs lighter than the M5 and have two fewer wheels.

Says he who has riden through some early Vermont snow showers on two wheels.
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post #300 of 437
12/16/04 at 9:50pm
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Originally Posted by CB3
Not to dispute your entire point, but the Magnum RT is AWD.

Actually the AWD is an option on the RT and SXT. They come stock with RWD as do all Magnums.

Not a fan of this car but facts are facts. Not a good ski car whichever way you look at it.
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