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Machete Sins

post #1 of 15
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The machete sin's are going for cheap on rei outlet, which has been brought up. *It sounds like they might be similar to the K2 Axis XP's / Apache Recon's. Anyone been on the Volants and the K2's?

I also remember someone saying they're like a softer G4. I realize it's hard to qualify, but how much softer are we talking?
post #2 of 15
not much. same wood core, metal laminate construction. and a long-a$$ radius. 175 length is awesome for most (for some reason i have a personal problem with skis shorter than 180). i don't think you could do much better. compared to 8000? it's a beast.
post #3 of 15

machete sins

Glad to hear that 175 length is good for most. That's what I ordered and now they're staring at me from across the room here. At 170 to 180lbs and fluctuating between skier type 2/3 I was contemplating the 185s and still could make that happen if I return these, but what's the big difference? Would I get substancially more floatation in pow pow, would I get a substancially stiffer flex by going to the 185s? Just wondering really. Ya demoing these first would help but that's never been my style, and I don't know anybody carrying volants either. If you're a good enough skier I've learned you can always make a bargain work provided the materials are up to snuff-- and it does seem to be a well built slightly snappy ski.

Thanks for any more chit chat about the machetes, ready to try these hummers out!

Anyone have suggestions for bindings on these?

Peace out!
post #4 of 15
i'm a little guy and mine are 185s. but i have suspicions about shorter skis. so i'm crazy. this is a stiff ski. and if found the 175 great. yes, the 185 will be more stable in the deep, absorb shock better, make short turns not nearly as well, and generally be good for scaring the §hit out of tourists as you hum by far above a sane speed. so, if you're a lots of turns, controlled speed, more tree-ski and bumps kind of skier, the 175 will rock your best red knee-high ski socks right out of your boots.

if you're like me, well, the 185 sounds too good to pass up.

i'm 5'9" when i feel tall and 150#s when i have two steaks for dinner. never had trouble with a 185 fat ski, or a 190 for that matter.

as for bindings, if you've got the one with the riser, i'd recommend something like the marker free binding, but take the little white spacers out of the rubber air pad (this WILL void the warranty on the binding) before you install it. the rubber air pad helps to make the ski more cushy. with all that metal and wood, the ski can be hard on your foot soles.

if you've got the ski without the riser, i personally can't recommend anthing better than a marker piston. that's what's on mine.

spring for the 14.0 level. you'll like it.
post #5 of 15
is that really your name or just a fan of the actor? I just picked up some sins myself and am putting the rossi/look axial 110 pro bindings that were also on REI. got em a little shorter. i've heard it should be a good setup. watchout for the tip covers, I lost one of the tiny screws when taking them out of the box. Someone said they might be trouble.

it'll be a hoot seeing these skis on the hill. good advertising for REI if anything.
post #6 of 15
All you people picking up these Sin's, how come nobody's buying from me?

C'mon, show a little love for the X-man, I'll price match REI.
post #7 of 15
The skis are on sale right now at Sierra Trading Post for $399. I don't know how that compares to REI's price.
post #8 of 15
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Originally Posted by xdog1
All you people picking up these Sin's, how come nobody's buying from me?

C'mon, show a little love for the X-man, I'll price match REI.
Thats why I don't try to sell on line .
post #9 of 15

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

Thanks for the rundown Unionbowler. Yer starting to scare me into the 185s. 5'9" 150#? Geeez, I know I'm getting in shape when I'm in the 170#s so perhaps I did not choose wisely with the 175cms. damnit, I want to just get these things mounted and go ski, but now I'm feeling like I should get the 185s.

I may be too lazy at this point, should have demo'd, but who demos when a good ski comes down to rock bottom pricing? I do ski the trees now and then, and if I want to go fast I guess I can always get out the 205 straight boards that I planned to leave behind for the most part.

Thanks again for the chit chat!
post #10 of 15

I thought so!

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Originally Posted by unionbowler

as for bindings, if you've got the one with the riser, i'd recommend something like the marker free binding, but take the little white spacers out of the rubber air pad (this WILL void the warranty on the binding) before you install it. the rubber air pad helps to make the ski more cushy. with all that metal and wood, the ski can be hard on your foot soles.

if you've got the ski without the riser, i personally can't recommend anthing better than a marker piston. that's what's on mine.

spring for the 14.0 level. you'll like it.
I had second thoughts about that pad on the Free series binding as well, though a guy I talked to said otherwise. I opted for Comp 1400's instead, hopefully they will make my Volant Machete FB's feel lively. I'll post a review of them after this weekend.
post #11 of 15
You'll do fine with the 175's especially since they are "in hand"!! I picked up a pair of Sins last season out west. I'm 6'2" and 205# and grabbed the 175's after demo'ing. Like unionbowler stated, these things rip. Rock solid at speed. Skied them in powder, chopped powder, crud, trees, groomers, you name it. I skied them here in the east in spring slop with no problems. They bust thru anything.

Have fun on 'em!
post #12 of 15
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Originally Posted by Lars
The skis are on sale right now at Sierra Trading Post for $399. I don't know how that compares to REI's price.
I've got them for $200, delivered.
post #13 of 15
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Originally Posted by jlb
I had second thoughts about that pad on the Free series binding as well, though a guy I talked to said otherwise. I opted for Comp 1400's instead, hopefully they will make my Volant Machete FB's feel lively. I'll post a review of them after this weekend.
again, i can't recommend the big air pad for a volant enough. these things transmit so much energy and vibration (not in a bad way) that the pad really helps to quiet down the feeling in your foot (in a good way).

If it means anything, McConkey himself was looking for/recommending an elastomer pad between binding and volant ski for his spatulas, etc. Wierd that his sponsor came out with one.

Comp 14.0 Free = Comshock Piston, Big Air Pad and EPS. Pretty much exactly the same and the Comp 14.0 EPS, but adds the Big Air Pad and matching flame graphics for those Sins!
post #14 of 15
That was some beautiful poetry Damato, you too Unionbowler. I will get these 175s mounted up and it looks like I should be searching for those Marker Comp 14 Free bindings eh? Anyhow I'm on the rebound from a bad breakup with some 205s and don't want anything reminding me of them right now.

Thanks for letting me latch onto this thread and get some assistance! Have good weekends brothers!
post #15 of 15
i'll be out on my saucer wearing my aviators ripping some sick sledding hills...getting rowdy for the season and skiing machetes with a saucer's best friend: good ol jack
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