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Great Lesson at Copper

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Thread Starter 
Copper has this excellent program for ski lesson junkies: $199 for unlimited all day Sunday lessons. While they don't say it on the site, you can opt to take a half day lesson, in case you want to "spend the morning" with your significant other.

Since I was the only one at my level taking class, I had my instructor to myself. What a treat! If you're looking for someone patient, who has an excellent eye for subtlety and detail, check out Steve Wyman.

Since my injury, I have felt that there something going on with my left turns that just didn't seem right. Steve was able to pick up on it right away.

The high point of the afternoon: We had pulled off to the side of the trail to talk, then, this PMTS class {that John Mason was attending, and just happened to be taught by Arcmeister} pulled up along side of us. Steve says "Oh, just do a wedge turn around them!"
post #2 of 20
Sounds like you had a good day at Copper. PMTS class wedging? Archmeister really has a sick sence of humor

The Copper sunday lesson program sounds like a good deal especially if you were the only one all day. Lucky you.... also lucky Steve
post #3 of 20
Lisamarie,
Next time say hello...

The snow was good, the learning was fun.
But the crowded mix of high speed race camp kids zooming thru first day intermediate general public was scary....
post #4 of 20
Thread Starter 
Arc, would you believe I didn't even recognize you!
The crowds at Copper are absolutely terrifying, in that there is a whole lot of out of control skiing and boarding going on. I'm not too scared of the race camps. They are at least in control.

I have never seen so many people go down in the patroller's sled. I'm starting to think of it as Killington West!


The great thing about the lesson was Steve taught me how to actually work the crowds.
post #5 of 20
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Originally Posted by Lisamarie
The great thing about the lesson was Steve taught me how to actually work the crowds.
Did he have you handing out red and blue helmet covers?

For slalom practice?:
post #6 of 20
BTW LM, I could have used your preski stretching routine from ESA last year!

With limited terrain open at Jiminy Saturday, I figured no warm up was necessary - wrong! I'm still walking funny.:
post #7 of 20
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Originally Posted by skier_j
Did he have you handing out red and blue helmet covers?

For slalom practice?:
Noooo! He told her to stand in the middle of the trail with the rest of the crowds. There's safety in numbers....right?
post #8 of 20
Thread Starter 
HA!! Actually, he picked up on two things that I had no idea I was doing. When I turn my skis uphill, I have a tendency to look uphill. It's a wonder that I have never, ever hit anyone! But that does create a feeling of paic. He also told me to focus 3 turns ahead. I'm not sure why that worked, but it did.
post #9 of 20
LM, I'm surprised no one has ever mentioned to ski several turns ahead. I frequently read your posts regarding instruction so i can gather that you have had a good deal of ski instruction. I would have guessed that would have been a skill/idea that an instructor would have taught you a long time ago. We use it very frequently when racing/skiing in and out of a course. It is very useful, as it gets you looking ahead and really planning each turn before you ever make it. Your turns will be more natural now - and less mechanical.
Later
GREG
post #10 of 20

Attempted thread hijacking

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Originally Posted by Arcmeister
But the crowded mix of high speed race camp kids zooming thru first day intermediate general public was scary....

I would like to know why this type of behavior is tolerated? This is common at mnay ski areas. Why don't coaches instruct these kids in proper ski etiquette? Why do the areas refuse to crack down on it. I have seen many incidents of lower level skiers being buzzed by groups like this. It's wrong.
post #11 of 20
Awesome hi-jack! We had a discussion like this about a year ago. As i recall it got pretty heated. Check archives before we take this one any further... its like poking a really short stick at a really big bees nest. If we were all racers and coaches or all recreational skiers it would be fine... but the mix we have here often sparks some pretty passionate replies. There were a few times last year that i feared the fight would actually be taken to the snow...
Later
GREG
post #12 of 20
LM,

Glad to hear that you got your left turn straightened out. And I understand what you mean about the crowds at Copper. I attended the PMTS Fall Clanic last year for the full four days. The weekend was a zoo. So Laurie and I just did Friday. I got everything out of the one day that I was looking for. I saw Chris, Emily and Lori Geib during lunch. What a surprise!!

Yesterday, we drove down to Loveland. There were a lot of people, but not too bad. We were able to reinforce what we learned on Friday.

Steamboat opens Wednesday. I don't know how much will be open.

Rick
post #13 of 20

Worm Turn

Arcmeister rules the worm turning new school!!!
post #14 of 20
Hey Lisamarie--glad to hear you're doing well--haven't seen you in weeks!

If you had a great lesson, don't hesitate to name names. Was "Steve's" last initial a "T" or a "W"--or something else?

For what it's worth, Loveland still has EXCELLENT early season conditions, and it's nearly deserted midweek. Loveland midweek may be Colorado's best-kept secret!

(Come to think of it, never mind. Forget what I said. Loveland is crowded and the conditions are bad. No one skis Loveland--it's too crowded!)

Best regards,
Bob Barnes
post #15 of 20

Jay - you could have shown us the worm turn too!

That was a great worm turn Arc! I'm glad you didn't tell us to do it after you demonstrated it!

Lisa - nice seeing you again. It was indeed crazy crowded that weekend.

Great camp - really enjoyed it Roger. I've got some good homework to work on.

(and seated snowboarders do indeed make good salom practice)
post #16 of 20
Steve Wyman's last initial is W.
post #17 of 20
Hey Lisamarie,

The next time you have the opportunity to ski with Steve ask him about the training maneuver we named after him 2 years ago-"the 50 yard face groomer". Why shave when you can ski it off sliding face first down High Point all the while observing trees coming closer and closer while your not slowing down.

Sorry Steve-it was a training classic.
post #18 of 20
Thread Starter 
I don't know if I'd tell him That I know about that. Might embarass him!
BTW, watching how a group of racers work the crowd without hitting anyone or getting hit was both inspiring and educational.

I do have to say it's going to be a challenge taking lessons at a resort where I know so many instructors. I was trying to keep a low profile and ski with a lower level group.
Till Katy comes over says something to the point of "What is she doing in that group, she skis with me and Barnes!"
Did get me a private lesson, though.
post #19 of 20
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I do have to say it's going to be a challenge taking lessons at a resort where I know so many instructors. I was trying to keep a low profile and ski with a lower level group.
Till Katy comes over says something to the point of "What is she doing in that group, she skis with me and Barnes!"
Good golly. The stuff of nightmares.
post #20 of 20
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Originally Posted by Lisamarie
I don't know if I'd tell him That I know about that. Might embarass him!
BTW, watching how a group of racers work the crowd without hitting anyone or getting hit was both inspiring and educational.
It's simple. As my friend put it: "The faster you go, the more you can treat other people on the hill as stationary objects."
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