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anyone use RX goggles?

post #1 of 23
Thread Starter 
My wife uses OTG goggles and her glasses always fog (and cost me an hour arguement at the base of the mountain).

Anyone have experience with rx goggles? Most seem to use an insert, while others are a second lens? built into the lens?

I'm a little confused :


post #2 of 23
Try Zooke on both her goggles and glasses to see if that helps.
post #3 of 23
I never went with the rx goggles because most just use an insert that in terms of fogging is no better than wearing goggles with glasses. I find that there are a few things that help eliminate fog. 1) well ventilated goggles (obviously the ones with the microfans do this best, but others work too.) 2) small rimless glasses (I wear rimless kazuo kawasaki frames) 3) Use an antifog treatment on the glasses 4) make sure that if you wear a mask your warm breath isn't being directed up toward the goggles.

I've never tried the Zooke stuff, anyone have experience with it?
post #4 of 23
Never tried Zooke, but an anti-fog paste called "Cat Crap" (no it isn't brown and I don't know why they call it that) seems to work pretty well.
post #5 of 23
I have gone to Contacts and A frame goggles cuz goggles over glasses never worked very well on storm days. But before contacts smith goggles with the fan worked the best before. Another trick is to put anti persperant on you face and don't over dress which causes you to sweat.
post #6 of 23
Some Rx goggles have the lenses embedded in one layer which has an airchamber between it and the outer layer. I did prefer them over goggles which fit over glasses - they were incrementally better. However, that did not solve the entire fogging problem. When soft contacts became available, I tried them out - and never went back to skiing with glasses.

At a certain middle aged point in life, I was able to see everything but my watch and a trail map. However, I now use bifocal contact lenses. They are not at all like bifocal glasses, and, in fact, are as close to being "glassless" as anything I've tried. You don't see any line - you just see things that are near as well as things that are far. Pretty nifty!
post #7 of 23
Hey, what the heck. You guys ever hear of Lasik? Solve the problem permanently and forget the fogging, slipping, poor vision, expense and other problems. A 30 minute procedure and 2-day recovery, and you will never miss your glasses or Rx goggles again. If you can afford to ski, you can change your life forever and leave glasses behind!
post #8 of 23
I used prescription goggles for a year or so before I started wearing contacts. Problem was I couldn't read the trail maps because I wear bifocals. They did work though. I now have a monovision setup, left eye for distance right for reading with my contacts and it works good. In the daytime I can see distance fine with both eyes and can also read medium sized print without reading glasses. At night I sometimes feel my distance sight is compromised, but it's OK. I had the reverse of reading glasses made with the Right eye negating the magnification that my Right contact has. That works great for night driving etc.

I considered Lasik, but in spite of the low risk, was still scared off by the risks. Contacts work fine.
post #9 of 23
Thread Starter 
how many eye doctors do you know getting lasik?

plus some of us aren't good candidates.
post #10 of 23
I'm interested in contacts, but would only want to wear them for sports. Is this feasable? Doesn't it take a while to get used to them? I assume you can't just pop 'em in for the first time and hit the slopes.
post #11 of 23
Originally Posted by aschick
I'm interested in contacts, but would only want to wear them for sports. Is this feasable? Doesn't it take a while to get used to them? I assume you can't just pop 'em in for the first time and hit the slopes.
It's different for different people. For me it was really hard to get them in for the first few weeks. Once they were in they were fine. I had a friend who could get them in easily but found getting them out hard. That for me has always been easy.

Many people feel they need to wear goggles over them, I can get away with good wrap around sunglasses, but at high speeds they can dry out or move around - and adjusting one with ski gloves on is not fun

But once you get a fitting, try out a brand or two and get them working you can pop them in and ski, sure.
post #12 of 23
I first tried the [then] new soft contacts just so I could use them for skiing. I chose to wear them all the time to become accustomed to them. Then I did become accustomed to them . . . and wore them all the time. Now that I need the bifocal contacts, I've come full circle. While I sometimes do wear them regularly, I more frequently use my progressive focus eyeglasses for work and the contacts for skiing and looking cool.

As for the laser surgery, it has a drawback - I'd still need reading glasses - so I'm sticking with the contacts.

Give them a try! If they really aren't for you, then you'll find out. If you give them a chance, I bet that you'll at least use them for skiing. By the way, I almost ALWAYS wear goggles over them, except in REALLY warm weather.
There are so many different kinds, it's very likely you'll find some that work for you.
post #13 of 23
oboe, how do the bifocal contacts work? the monovision (see my previous post) works for me, and I was going to have the Lasik done with the monovision, which they said was fine - and I wouldn't need reading glasses except for small print or low light - like with the monovsison. Thing about the Laski is that it is really pretty darn new, and any statistics they have only go back a few years. I'd rather it had 20 years of stats before I trusted it.
post #14 of 23
Sooner or later, old chum, we humans frequently need "reading glasses". It's a good bet.

How do the bifocal contacts work? Well . . . I know, and I don't know. I just know that they do. The lenses have half circles of alternating powers, and your brain sorts out what it needs. The result is that the user sees just about what folks who don't need any stinkin' eyeglasses see.

Let me put it this way . . . Do I need to understand all of the psycho-physical-neurological facts about skiing to know that it feels great?! IT DOES! . . . and the bifocal contacts do work. It's as close to not needing glasses as I've been since the age of sixteen. Not only that, but unlike laser surgery . . . IT'S REVERSIBLE!!! Don't like it?! UN-DO IT! You can't say that about the surgery.
post #15 of 23
P.S. skimangojazz, how old are you?
post #16 of 23
I'm 52, and I definitely need reading glasses, i've got lots of pairs of 'em. My contacts have extra magnification in the right lens, making it a reading lens. When I look at a book or newspaper my brain goes to it, and when I look at distance my brain goes to the left eye.

When I asked you how they work, I meant how WELL do they work
post #17 of 23
ps you said you use them less and use your progressives (I have them too) implying that they're not as good?
post #18 of 23
They work well, but by the end of the day (like, NOW), my eyes are tired and spectacles with progressive focus are just easier.
post #19 of 23
thanx, i'm tired too and going to bed. I'll read any more posts here in the morning.
post #20 of 23
The problem with soft contacts is the alpine air is so dry - but I still use them, but only with good goggles. I've had great success with Smith Turbo (they cost too much and they should make my coffee in the morning and fetch my paper), but Turbo with the fan ought to be bombproof but they are NOT!

I have the most fun when it's snowing over and inch an hour and it's windy, foggy, and nasty. The Turbo C.A.M. goggles are a godsend, even with glasses - but when it's puking hard, I turn on the high fan the whole day. Smith has replacement lenses for all models of the Turbo C.A.M. It's even better with soft contacts in a blizzard. I usualy wear a hardshell jacket, cycling jersey, mock zip turtleneck, and a fleece windstopper vest. I carry a pack so I can add on or take off layers, ski tools, NotWax, spare socks, fleece neck gaiter, CatTracks, etc.
post #21 of 23
I did have a problem with lens dry out, but that's in the past. I find that the right combination of contact lenses and goggles is the key.
post #22 of 23
So, what is they key to the right combination of goggles and contacts to keep them from drying out? I guess the more cold airflow coming in to prevent fogging will have the effect of drying out the lenses. What's the solution? something with an adjustable regulator?
post #23 of 23
ashick, I can't say what will work for you. I just found that goggles which can stay fog free without blowing a lot of air onto my eyes work best, and some contact lenses work better than others (my Acuvue bifocals, for example, work very well, but don't ask me why). It's a matter of trial and error.

The lenses in some goggles seem to ward off fogging better - and the venting system in particular can make a difference. Of course, there must be ENOUGH venting and not TOO MUCH. Also, some goggles route the vented air in such a way that it removes moisture while keeping air out of your eyes. The goggles I now use were purchased to fit my helmet. They're Smiths, and they have a built-in unobtrusive outrigger that helps them fit the helmet. There are vent holes at the top of the lense through which outside air enters through foam and then exits the foam through holes on top. There is no adjuster on these.

I hope this sheds some light and provides some encouragement that the problem can be solved. Believe me, in my own road to Valhalla, there were a lot of trial and a lot of error before finding a combination that works. Good luck!
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