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post #1 of 20
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I'm wondering which ski I should expect to use at W/B in December. I just read an article in which the author says always use the widest ski available, and never go with a waist of less than 75 mm. I was thinking of taking the SuperMountains and the Rossi Cobras, but now I'm wondering if I shouldn't be taking just the Explosivs. Any thoughts on the subject?
post #2 of 20
I'm glad I didn't read that article otherwise I would have felt like an idiot skiing on my Rossi Bandit X's and their puny 70mm waist. Don't know how I used to ski Whistler on the 200CM GS straight skis back in the day before shaped skis. I guess I'm just good. If you have to bring just one ski, bring the ski that will suit the terrain you plan to ski most often. You can always rent a nice pair of demo skis if Whistler gets a big dump while you're there.
post #3 of 20
The tops are glaciers.... can you read potential ice? Yes I skied quite a bit out there. The conditions at WB totally run the gamut. My Omecarve 10's (waist under 70) were great out there. I just wish I had taken my GS skis too.... it get's very tiring making all those little turns down 5000 ft. of vert. I personally think one of the cross skis would be perfect. But what does and eastern skier know :}
post #4 of 20
I skied my Atomic 10EX's there, 84cm waist. There were times when I wish I had my Volkl G3's. I think something between 70 and 80 would be enough for your trip in December. Enjoy it, it's an awesome place. If it's going to dump go rent some thing fat.
post #5 of 20
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Originally Posted by Colossus178
I'm wondering which ski I should expect to use at W/B in December. I just read an article in which the author says always use the widest ski available, and never go with a waist of less than 75 mm. I was thinking of taking the SuperMountains and the Rossi Cobras, but now I'm wondering if I shouldn't be taking just the Explosivs. Any thoughts on the subject?
I think a 74 mm all mountain ski would be perfect at that time of the year (or any time), providing you don't need a powder ski to ski fresh snow. Agree with others that you can experience a wide variety of conditions at W/B at any time of the year. If you were just taking one pair of the above mentioned...my vote would be for the "Supermountains". I've never skied W/B with anything above a 74mm...I have skied narrower waisted skis there and had a blast...of course I didn't know any better at the time...have fun!

powsniffr
post #6 of 20

70mm is great

I've skied there on 200cm Salomon straight skis, and 70mm Volkls in total dumps, and when both hills are skied out. 75mm might be the best compromise, and 85 would be great in a dump, but it's all good.

If it's bony, with 70mm then you're fine on the runs, and quicker in the trees. If it dumps, then you're still fine, but (as said above) you can demo something fatter if it dumps. All that being said, I wouldn't want to be on 65mm carvers...
post #7 of 20
Go fat. I was there for 8 days last March when conditions were hardpacked and pretty crappy except for one day. 6 days I rode a ski that is 95mm underfoot and on the day it snowed I was ony my Spatulas (125mm underfoot). I ski 50-60 days a year on the east coast, and my everyday ski is 90mm underfoot. I can't imagine skiing anything less than 85mm underfoot at W/B.
post #8 of 20
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Originally Posted by Max Capacity
There were times when I wish I had my Volkl G3's.
I took my G3's when I went and they perfect. Granted there were no major dumps, but 70mm was a good all around size.

: : :
post #9 of 20
What's the point of comprimising? I've been travelling out there for the pas 12 years or so. Each year my skis get bigger and I never seem to miss the old ones.

Last year I alternated between G4's and Gotamas (about 35 days total). This year my alternates will have waists of 99 and 120.

Not that I didn't have a blast on anything I skied out there, just more fun on the wider skis.
post #10 of 20
You didn't say where you would be spending most of your time (groomers, bowls, glades...). A 75mm waist ski at least as others have said, but fatter is better. Last year I spent most of the time on my PR's up there skiing the glades. And I'd pull out the Atomic SL9's for the icy hardpack days.

This year I expect to be spending most of my time up there on the B3's (fatter is better ).
post #11 of 20
I spent the last winter out there, and had a 72mm (Dynastar Candide's) and a 90mm (Scratch BC) - rode 90% Scratch BC until late March when everything got soft, then I rode about 90% candide's (and I spent more time in the park at that point...)

If I was only bringing one, I would definetly bring the Scratch BC's
post #12 of 20
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Originally Posted by Colossus178
I just read an article in which the author says always use the widest ski available, and never go with a waist of less than 75 mm.
Sounds like the author needs to learn more about skiing. Sure, there are times a fat ski is nice, but to say always use the fattest available is just plain stupid.

I like to feel that I can carve like a racer. I grew up on eastern snow and value a grippy feel more than float. I usually ski a 180 with 108-70-100 sidecut. If I'm lucky enough to find really deep powder I have to work a little more but still have a ball. I can arc two round trenches into corduroy and grip on ice. I brought one ski to Europe for six weeks last year and was happy not to have extra baggage.

Other skiers are just as happy with a fat ski for mixed use. Find out what you like by demoing some carvers and floaters and don't worry too much about proclamations that get set in print.

Have fun up there.

Newf
post #13 of 20
On a side note, Whistler has been getting hammered with some big dumps all this week +40cm since Monday and still counting

Blackcomb opens this Saturday, with Whistler to follow next weekend =]
post #14 of 20

Take the Explosivs

Take the Explosivs; midfats are great at Whistler. : You can always rent fatties if you hit a dump!

(... and about the idea that always going for the fatties is stupid -- not out here it ain't! )
post #15 of 20
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(... and about the idea that always going for the fatties is stupid -- not out here it ain't! )
Actually I live and ski "out here". But you're right, stupid was the wrong term. Bad advice would be better. I have friends who ski slalom skis in all conditions and love the quick sink and squirt manouvers they do in powder. I know people who prefer their fatties on packed and corduroy. I wouldn't tell anyone to only use one type of ski.
post #16 of 20
[quote=newfydog]... I have friends who ski slalom skis in all conditions and love the ... [\QUOTE] (and then they say all kinds of silly things)

... and you are quite right. Different stroke and all that. But that said, I used to be one of those guys who dissed fatties in the pow. " I want to ski IN it, not over the top of it" ... you know the rap. And then I got on fatter skis and smote mightily my brow. I have seen many, many of my friends go through those same steps. They have all ended up on Pocket Rockets or Jaks or something of the ilk. More than in the soft snow of the rockies or rock solid snow back east, PNW and Sierra snow really does respond well to the stability of a wider platform underfoot.
post #17 of 20
[\QUOTE] " I want to ski IN it, not over the top of it" ... you know the rap.
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yeah, I agree... have a pile of skis and like to switch around. I did a day with my friend on the slaloms skiing some deep stuff like a porpose, and said "that was fun, but I don't need to do it again, tomorrow I'll bring the fat ones", Overall though in less than 14" I don't use the fatties that often.
post #18 of 20
i skied on 66s at whistler and it was fine. no complaint here.
post #19 of 20
Thread Starter 
I solved the "What ski do I take to W/B" dilemna. After skiing the weekend on the Salomon SuperMountains I scored this summer, I'm pretty sure I'll be taking them with me wherever I go. I also love my Explosivs, so they'll have to come with me (hopefully, W/B will get a big enough dump of snow while I'm there that I'll need the big fatties). I'll have to leave everything else at home.

(To anybody who offered comments regarding the SuperMountain: I just skied on them for three days, and they were great. I'm not an accomplished enough of a skier to say much more than "they were great", but I found them to be fun and easy to ski. I'll be keeping those...)
post #20 of 20
Only 1?

I was there last year when 2' came in. My buddy tried to rent fats, but they cleared out a day before the storm.

I travel with my SL9's and my Gotamas.

If you have more than 1 in your quiver, travel with them.

No regrets.
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