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Skis too big? Perfect!!!

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This from Alaska Mike...

["I doubt I'll use them as my primary race ski this year (too much ski for me), but I'll probably train on them a lot to work on technique and build up my legs"]

...in reference to some race skis he'd been on got me to wondering if anyone here ever jumps on skis that are "too" big, stiff, wide, narrow, etc., in an effort to exercise skiing muscles/movements in the same way a hitter in baseball swings a weighted bat before stepping in to face the pitcher with the bat unweighted.

Last year at Mammoth I skied some big, stiff skis for the first time and got pretty much worked when short turns were called for. However, the next day out, back on my 177's, the skis seemed so much quicker and lighter than they had before and I couldn't help but think the previous day spent on the more demanding skis had helped in the way a pre-event, "weighted" workout might.

Do you ever bring out the big skis because you WANT to work more?
post #2 of 5
Heck yeah man. And at the end of the day, when your passing out after a beer in your hand and a bowl of chili, the body just feels great.
post #3 of 5
Yes. Maybe not exactly to have a tougher workout but in order to be pushed more and forced to give what you can.
I firmly believe that a ski that is "a bit too much" can do a lot for you. If you try to master it you learn a lot.

It´s like skiing long skis. If you try to deliver GS turns on a SG ski you have to work really hard trying to squeeze a 20-meter turn radius from a 34-meter-radius ski. Then you take the GS with 24 m and the GS turn is a cinch. With a soft GS you even think you have a SL underfooot.
At least that´s how I feel and how, I hope, it works for me.

That´s not to say a "too much ski" should be the only ski one has. Definitely not, but a sofisticated dosage can bring your skiing further.

A somewhat different story in gates. You have to be absolutely careful. An excessively demanding ski will deliver no clean carved turns and it might ruin the good technique.
OTOH, if you can handle a demanding ski skiing free first you can try it in some more open gates then.

It´s great someone opened the topic. I always hear "don´t take a ski that´s too much for you". It may be right for most of the average skiers but experts and aspiring racers shouldn´t be listening to attentively.

Hence: in a reasonable dosage highly recommended!
post #4 of 5
I have a pair of World Cup 214 DH boards with a 40m turn radius that are fun to ride. Any skis I get on after those feel quick.
post #5 of 5
It's a balancing act for me. If the skis are too far bayond my ability level, they reinforce defensive movements most of the time. However, if they push me to stay on top of them and initiate/pressure/complete my turns well, the reward is better skiing. In the case of the WC SL11s, I think they are a bit much for the race course for me. I have a nice pair of Fischer World Cup SCs for that.

I skied with a lot of very good J1s/J2s at Mammoth, and they pushed me to ski faster and cleaner than I ever had before- with the help of some outstanding coaching (Thanks Sparky Anderson and Andy Gannon!!!). If they were Europa Cup or World CUp skiers, I doubt I would have learned as much because there is no way I could keep up and still work on proper stance and balance. This old brain can only process so much at once, and that amount decreases as speed increases. This camp was a good balance. I was still the slowest/least talented skier there, but the kids didn't seem to hold it against me and my skiing improved.

Great snow and new skills in early November- is there anything better?
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