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post #1 of 26
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Since the last thread with picture I posted turned out so good, I thought I'd post one on a less serious note. I took this picture of my buddy on Saturday(he's the one that took the shot of me on Sun) at Belleayre mtn NY. What do you guys think happened in the moments following this picture?

post #2 of 26
Helmut testing?
post #3 of 26
I think he crossed his tips and took a tumble.
post #4 of 26
Been following along for awhile here now and read that if you are carving very little snow flies from your skis.......So that's not it ?

Great color in the photo though !
post #5 of 26
My first thought was look at all that nice powder. but then I figuered that he 'tests the snow quality' pretty soon.
post #6 of 26

Gobble Gobble

Is that the first test of the new PSIA/NSAA sponsored skier balloon for the Macy's Turkey day parade?
post #7 of 26
Jamie, a serious question: had you caught his picture when he was making a good turn, could he have looked like you in the picture of you?

....Ott
post #8 of 26
Hey Ott, I've got 5 bucks that says the answer is no. You in?

Seriously, I know what your saying, but good skiers seldom get themselves in a sitution that looks like this, and low level skiers have a hard time displaying even a moment in time that shows strong indications of upper level skiing.

To be successful a betting man has to learn to play the odds.

FASTMAN
post #9 of 26
I think he's about to sneak in that pole plant he's been working on.
post #10 of 26
I don't know about that pole plant; this has "face plant" written all over it.
post #11 of 26
Bandit - That all depends on what kind of lince you were using on the camera! If it was a 35mm or a wide angle lince then I think physical contact was a result. Looking at the size and face expression of your friend I would not have liked to be behind the camera.....

Uncle Louie - LOL, glad to hear that my carving thread has found a place in your heart....
post #12 of 26
Thanks tdk6---no railroad tracks here--just the train !

All fun aside here folks--It's his day 2 ? he's vertical (so far) and he's out on it and its 65 here where I live. He's ahead of me ! Like Ott has said, If he's havin' fun------he looks good to me !
post #13 of 26
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Originally Posted by tdk6
Bandit - That all depends on what kind of lince you were using on the camera! If it was a 35mm or a wide angle lince then I think physical contact was a result. Looking at the size and face expression of your friend I would not have liked to be behind the camera.....

Uncle Louie - LOL, glad to hear that my carving thread has found a place in your heart....
DING DING DING!!! We have a winnah!!!

LOL Physical contact was a result. There wasn't a whole lot of zoom in play so he was pretty close to me. It was like slow motion when he went down....and headed right for me(headfirst). Somehow he didn't take me out directly but glanced off me and got me offbalance with my ski's going backward down the fall line(all the while holding the camera) and I ended up going down too. While we were laughing our butts off a patroller came over and asked if everyone was ok. He said, "other then my pride, we're fine" LOL.
post #14 of 26
That is a big man. He could have killed you
post #15 of 26
Bandit, I have an eye for big guys like him and situations like that Better safe than sorry....
post #16 of 26
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Originally Posted by Ott Gangl
Jamie, a serious question: had you caught his picture when he was making a good turn, could he have looked like you in the picture of you?

....Ott
Well, that's hard to say. This picture was taken opening day with my camera(was the only one I got...batts went dead). The pic of me was taken the next day with his camera, and that day I got a bunch more of him. I gotta borrow his memory card and dump the pics and vids on my computer. Maybe when I get the pics if he's up for it I'll post a serious picture of him.

In answer to your question, he wouldn't look like me in a serious shot. He's been skiing for a lot longer then me and comes from the old school of legs very close together and knee tucked behind knee. He's skiied straight ski's for years and just last year (after a hiatus from skiing) got a pair of shaped's. So would he look like me in that picture? Surely not. But does that mean he is a less-able skiier? I would assume not since he's been at it for so long but I guess it would depend on what is the accepted form of skiing used when evaluating???
post #17 of 26
Hmmm, Rick, maybe I should have taken you up on that bet....

....Ott
post #18 of 26
Perhaps Ott, but it sounds to me like Jamie is just trying to be gracious.
post #19 of 26
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Originally Posted by Rick
Perhaps Ott, but it sounds to me like Jamie is just trying to be gracious.
Not at all. I personally have always thought of him to be a superior skiier to me. He's been skiing many years, and I'm just a young buck. In fact, it is he who originally taught me to ski.

I think it boils down to what is the accepted form of skiing nowadays? Yesteryear, it was feet tight together. Now, with the advent of carving ski's, the feet are moving farther and farther apart. I don't really know if there is a way to compare since the forms are so different.

Jamie
post #20 of 26
I'd like to point out his feet are further apart than yours
post #21 of 26
He was just trying to lift and tip, I think...
post #22 of 26
Well we know he tipped-----Just a little too far.----Then Lifted-----up off the hill.............
post #23 of 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandit2941
Not at all. I personally have always thought of him to be a superior skiier to me.

I think it boils down to what is the accepted form of skiing nowadays
Jamie
Jamie, I've been skiing for over 40 years, and for the life of me I can't remember a time when the technique your friend is displaying was considered accepted form.

Come on, give us another shot of him (your best shot), Ott and I have a bet to settle.
post #24 of 26
Rick, why I asked the question in the first place was that I have the sneaking suspicion that the shot of Jamie might not be representative of his skiing after such a short time on skis.

....Ott
post #25 of 26
It's a reasonable notion Ott; a single still frame can be very deceiving. We've all seen stills that catch world class racers in some pretty ugly poses. But even in these shots the reality that this is a very good skier in a bad moment does seem to make itself known.


And to the opposite side of the coin, I've never seen a shot of an average recreational skier that has fooled me into thinking I was observing a world cup athlete. The presence (or absence) of skill, and a comprehension (or ignorance) of technique has a way of shining through even in a single frame.


My impression of the two pictures is that Jamie has a basic concept of balance, body position and edge control, and usually feels comfortable on his skis. His friend, on the other hand, looks as though his prominent sensation while skiing is probably one of feeling unsure, out of balance, out of control, and just generally confused as to how the hell to make those damn shape skis turn the way he'd like.

Ott, I'm not saying that Jamie has reached a technical pinnacle; just that he seems to have progressed very well in his short time on skis. This is not so unheard of. I've seen some very rapid skill development achieved by naturally gifted athletes. I've also seen skiers who've been at it for years still struggle basic technical skills.

Bottom line; my money is still on Jamie.





FASTMAN
post #26 of 26
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I don't have a better picture of my bud in my possession right now. The batts went dead in my camera on day 1 after his crash, and he didn't send me the ones of him when he sent me the rest of me. Check out the thread of the series of me. I don't think it looks quite as good as the still shot.
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