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11/17 Ron LeMaster talk in Boulder, CO on developing a "good eye" to evaluate skiers

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Thread Starter 
For Epic skiers in Colorado, you might be interested in the upcoming talk 7:00 p.m. this Wednesday, 11/17 at the Boulder Center for Sports Medicine, by Ron LeMaster, author of the book Skier's Edge, and master of the photo montage analysis of World Cup skiers. He's speaking on "developing a good eye--how to analyze and evaluate ski technique".

More info, including a link to directions, at:

http://www.skiracing.com/industry_re...SRIR.php/1942/

If someone does go, it would be great if you could post the highlights.
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Damn! How fast can I get from Summit County to Boulder? Thanks for posting this!
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It's about 2 hours from your house, LM. Not that I'd know...!
post #4 of 17
Looks like I'm going to be able to attend. Anyone else coming?
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I didn't meet any Bears there, so if you were there and we didn't meet, I missed out. (If you were there, I was the joker that came in 15 minutes late and sat in the front row!)

Ron's insights were quite thoughtful (as usual), and included this gem that we should perhaps discuss in another thread...

When you discover a real issues in someone's skiing, seek the root cause in this order:
  1. Equipment
  2. Morphology
  3. Psychology
  4. Tactics
  5. Technique
He did break down each section (as you'd expect) and use his exceptional photographs and video to illustrate.
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Morphology? More info please? Thanks!
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"morphology" (from dictionary.com):
  1. The branch of biology that deals with the form and structure of organisms without consideration of function.
  2. The form and structure of an organism or one of its parts: the morphology of a cell; the morphology of vertebrates.
Ron used it to mean the form of a skiers body. In other words, the size, shape, strength, etc. of a skier impacts how a skier skis and what they are capable of doing.
post #8 of 17
Thread Starter 

Psychology?

I assume his pictures (and talk) was slanted toward racers. What did he mean by psychology? Aggressiveness? Willingness to commit to the outside ski/get both feet out from under the skier? Ability to avoid leaning back when going into steeps? Willingness to whack into gates?
post #9 of 17
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Originally Posted by sfdean
I assume his pictures (and talk) was slanted toward racers. What did he mean by psychology? Aggressiveness? Willingness to commit to the outside ski/get both feet out from under the skier? Ability to avoid leaning back when going into steeps? Willingness to whack into gates?
Yes, all of the above. His point is that there are many causes for what we see in all skiers (from WC on down to newbies), and it is best to understand how the non-technique issues are impacting them first. A too apprehensive or too aggressive skier can be the cause of problems in skiing that we would typically attempt to fix with technique coaching ("Stop dropping your hands back...").
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HA! Four "issues beyond the technical" validate our summer-time thinking:

There are things that need to be managed before real gains in technique can be realized.

In fact, all these things were discussed to some extent before! IIRC, it was in the Energy Leaks thread, focussing mostly on morphology and psychology. Technique was in the back seat in that thread.

Cheers!
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Thanks, BigE!
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Steve, was it in the Morphology area where he made the statement about the structure only supporting us with a locked knee? Later, RicB.
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Originally Posted by RicB
Steve, was it in the Morphology area where he made the statement about the structure only supporting us with a locked knee? Later, RicB.
It was in the transition from equipment to morphology, as I recall. He was talking about boot forward lean and the impact on stance. He was talking about the oft-quoted phrase "let your skeleton support you", and saying that such was not possible.

As I recall.

He mentioned to me that he'll be posting the slides on his web site after he gives that talk again in December.
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Ron LeMaster presentation Developing a Good Eye now available to download

I was visiting Ron LeMaster's website and noticed that his presentation on developing a good eye is now available to download.

www.ronlemaster.com/presentations.html

Seeing Skiing: Developing a Good Eye - Ron LeMaster, Boulder Center for Sports Medicine, Nov. 2004

This Good-Eye.pdf is 980k.


1) What do you think of this presentation?

He talks about the causes of why the skier is doing the wrong thing.

a) Equipment
b) Morphological factors
c) Psychological factors
d) Tactics
e) Technique
post #15 of 17
Perfect.

I'd of loved to see it.
post #16 of 17
Has anyone read his book "The Skier's Edge"? Worth buying??

thanks

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName=WDVW
post #17 of 17
Thread Starter 
It's an excellent book (1) giving you the phyiscs behind skiing; (2) breaking down the different pieces of skiing technique; and (3) containing incredible photo montages of top World Cup racing from a few years ago. (E.g., Hermann Maier and Debra Compagnoli, not Bode Miller.)

My favorite ski book ever (so far), and because of the photo montages, a nice coffee table book.

SfDean
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