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In New England, I was thinking that since there are more and more people every year and more and more skiers and the mountains appear to be getting increasingly congested, I was wondering:

Does anyone know of any rumblings or reports of new mountains/resorts opening soon in the east or in the planning stages?
post #2 of 9
A lot could be said about this topic but I'll try to keep this in a nutshell. No.

The two basic reasons are tough environmental restrictions, and unfavorable economic conditions. Expansions of existing ski areas are possible, but even in these cases the environmental approval process requires expensive studies and a long process permitting intervention by those opposed. Loon Mountain has had a major expansion in the works which was delayed for years. It finally has all the approvals but now the project is still on hold. Okemo has nearly completed a major expansion. Mt. Sunapee just had hearings on an expansion at which many neighbors expressed opposition; now a state agency will make the decision. If they approve, opponents can still delay the project with appeals. Mt. Wachusett has just completed an expansion after defeating years of litigation by the Sierra Club, the issue being impact on old-growth forest. It was really a tiny expansion, pretty much in the middle of the existing ski area, a 1400-foot triple chair and two trails.

Economically, I can't say that Eastern ski areas are an attractive investment, especially considering the climate and the necessity of snowmaking. Although the most expensive and crowded areas are profitable, many less fancy areas get by on very tight budgets despite being less crowded. However if any of the big resort developers wanted to invest in the East, the first thing they would try to do is to buy one of the nearly-bankrupt American Skiing Corporation's areas. Most of these are profitable, popular areas (Mt. Snow, Killington, Attitash, Sunday River and Sugarloaf), but ASC has such a huge debt load that they will never break even. Their stock is worth pennies a share. I can't imagine any sensible investor starting a new area, in the face of environmental opposition, when so many attractive areas are or will soon be on the market.

Pardon me, I stink at nutshells.
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PSIA certified ski school
Ahem. No such entity.
post #5 of 9
the only new openings I had heard of were re-openings of older areas, both Crotched and Tenny. Other than that, its been mainly expantions.
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A few weeks ago I got an emailed survey which seemed to be sizing up how the skiing marketplace would respond to a major expansion at Jiminy Peak. Major as in doubling or tripling the acreage, high speed lifts, new base bldgs, condo and lodging development; a complete soup-to-nuts resort with an emphasis on whole family appeal (I'm also guessing that a golf/tennis development questionaire may have gone out to a separate mailing list). Having never been to Jiminy Peak, I could only offer limited input but they did invite reponses to a half dozen or so new names for the expanded area...things like Wolf Creek or Moose Ridge, most of which sounded like West Coast wannabes. I'm more in favor of sticking with what we've got in the crowded northeast, making it better, cleaner, and more efficient, instead of impacting the mountain ecology in new areas.
post #7 of 9
While I'd love to see some new resorts pop up, I'm not holding my breath. Environmental groups typically fight "tooth & nail" against even modest expansions at existing resorts so they'd have a field day with new resort plans.
post #8 of 9

Jiminy survey

I got that survey on Jiminy Peak too! My suggestion for them was to add more natural snowfall.
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Originally Posted by godwinaustin
In New England, I was thinking that since there are more and more people every year and more and more skiers and the mountains appear to be getting increasingly congested, I was wondering:
i haven't seen the increased congestion. then again, we may be skiing different area. i think what you might be noticing is that as larger ski resorts and corporations lower their season pass prices to increase pass purchases and market share, that a few ski resorts are attracting more skiers. also, nearly every year one or two ski areas close which may send extra skiers scrambling to other mountains as more and more ski areas close.

the last two years have been oddities with a few once closed ski areas reopening. this is far more likely to happen than a new ski area being created which due to environmental restrictions and a poor market that's struggling to make a profic, would not make such a business venture look very attractive to investors or land owners.

instead of looking for new areas to open, my view of skiing in new england is to ski as many of the few remaining areas that we have left.
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