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post #1 of 43
Thread Starter 
Allright - I am stuck in Boston as a paralegal and I want to move out to BC or Montana or somewhere wild and cold. I want to ski ALOT. The problem is I have student loans, credit card (nothing big) and I just bought a used Yota Pickup because I needed a car.

So - I got debt - but I cant stand, I will not sit in an office all day. Its not who I am - I feel trapped.

My question is was anyone in the same predicament - what did you do? What kind of jobs are out there for someone like me? Can I make good money in a ski town - I cant live on 7-8 dollars an hour, even with a second job and that has been what has been holding me back. HELP!!!!! : :
post #2 of 43
Unfortunatly..there are lawyers everywhere. Start sending resumes.
post #3 of 43
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Originally Posted by godwinaustin
Can I make good money in a ski town : :
If good money was the norm, we'd all be in a ski town.
post #4 of 43
i say go to denver. you can get a job there, affordable housing + the colorado ski pass. denver definitely has as much wilderness within an hour's drive as anywhere else. or you could go the mormon route and move to salt lake. places like montana are just not going to give much job opportunities(sorry montanans).
post #5 of 43
If you are going to be broke and in debt, with a job that you don't like, you can do that anywhere, and it is much more fun in a ski town. It is just a matter of getting over the fear of the unknown (move). It doesn't matter if the entire job market sucks, you only need one job. Start investigating and making plans now. Shoot for a move within a year (next ski season).

You may want to get into backcountry skiing (if you are not already), which has unlimited possibilities and is free once you get the equipment. This will transfer beautifully to a ski town once you move and continue to save you money. You don't have to live in a "ski town," just close to the mountains and within reach of a good ski area.

I left Milwaukee for the Rockies 30 years ago and have met literally thousands of people in Montana, Colorado, New Mexico, Utah and Canada that moved because of skiing. Not one of them was sorry! You are lucky because with the internet you can check out everything you need without any effort. Go for it, you are not alone.
post #6 of 43
Lawyers, lawyers, lawyers everywhere. Try Salt Lake City, Denver, Albuqurque, Reno, Sacramento, Bend, Portland, Seattle, Boise..... Some aren't ski towns but they are close to great skiing.

Find a job, look into the cost of living, and consider your debt. How much do you have to make to survive. At least you have a professional skill that can be applied anywhere. Lots of lawyers move to ski towns. However, jobs in small ski towns are offer low pay and the cost of living is high. Do your research and then make the move.
post #7 of 43
Love to do it, too afraid to walk on the money, sad but true. You get used to certain things in life.
post #8 of 43
You can get used to anything, even not skiing. To bastardize the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers, "skiing will get you through times of no money, but money will not get you through times of no skiing.
post #9 of 43
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Originally Posted by mudfoot
You can get used to anything, even not skiing. To bastardize the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers, "skiing will get you through times of no money, but money will not get you through times of no skiing.
Good quote, thanks, If I stay, I will have money, if I go, I am a little too young to live off what I have, I guess I have this fear of being old, having no health care and no money to travel and such. IF I hang in there for a few years, I may be able to swing it as long as I am careful
post #10 of 43
Finndog, There are many people who moved to Colorado for the outdoors but never get out of town. You need a job that will give you time off during the week. Weekend skiing sucks. You have a dilemma that may not have an anwser unless you are willing to take a drop in income and live the simple life. Good luck. LewBob

PS Mudfoot, wasn't it "dope will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no dope." Bringin' back memories of Fat Freddies Cat!!
post #11 of 43
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by bsimeral
Lawyers, lawyers, lawyers everywhere. Try Salt Lake City, Denver, Albuqurque, Reno, Sacramento, Bend, Portland, Seattle, Boise..... Some aren't ski towns but they are close to great skiing.
well thats just it - I dont want to stay in the legal profession - as a paralegal its the opposite of everything I like - theres no creativity, thats left up to the lawyers.

If I have to get into an office job I was thinking of Copywriting - something to get paid while writing.

But every job out there demands experience and you have to wonder how these people get experience if all the jobs require experience in the first place! :
post #12 of 43
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by LewBob
Finndog, There are many people who moved to Colorado for the outdoors but never get out of town. You need a job that will give you time off during the week. Weekend skiing sucks. You have a dilemma that may not have an anwser unless you are willing to take a drop in income and live the simple life. Good luck. LewBob

PS Mudfoot, wasn't it "dope will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no dope." Bringin' back memories of Fat Freddies Cat!!
Lew - I dont mind the drop in income - its that I have financial obligations in the form of college loan debt, credit card (college) and my car loan.

I would be happy sleeping on a floor somewhere as long as it is warm and I can ski.
post #13 of 43
It's like skiing, charging full speed ahead, but in control and assessing the risks. My advice it go for your dreams, but make a plan to get there. Sounds like that is just what you are doing Finndog.

I think that (unfortunately) most people's lives are not motivated by moving towards good things (skiing), but rather avoiding the bad. It may be pessimistic, but I don't think most people who love skiing will move to a new skiing lifestyle unless their present life is unbearable (like godwinaustin). If you love to ski you need to plan your future to ski more. I don't know much, but I know that most people don't end up living in a ski town by accident. To bastardize another old saying, "people don't plan to fail (to ski enough), they fail to plan." Shit happens, but skiing doesn't unless you make it.
post #14 of 43

Make a move . .

Tighten the belt, get a second job. Pay off your CC and car loan in the next year, so you don't have that hanging over your head.

Move to the PacNW. Great access to the outdoors and plenty of folks out here eeking out an "outdoors first" lifestyle while sacrficing on the income side. You may have to stay in paralegal for a little while longer to get you out and settled, then start looking for that perfect job that gives you flexibilty to do what you like the best.

Pay off those student loans as fast as possible. No debt = freedom.

Easy to say sitting behind a desk in an office It can be done. I know plenty of folks who have taken the risk and are living the life with no regrets.

Best of luck.
post #15 of 43
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Originally Posted by mudfoot
Shit happens, but skiing doesn't unless you make it.
I think I see another tag line in the making. I like it...
post #16 of 43
You can always make more money. But you can't make more time!
post #17 of 43
I am an attorney and live in Denver. I ski every weekend in the winter as skiing is only 1 to 1 1/2 hours away. I can earn a decent salary in Denver and get in plenty of skiing. I know you said you want out of the legal profession but you already have an education and experience which will get you a job
in most places. Get a decent paying job in a place where you can easily go skiing, pay off your debts and then move to the mountains when money is not such a big issue.
post #18 of 43
http://www.toonopedia.com/freakbro.htm

I have the whole set of 'toons.
And don't forget Wonder Warthog!:

Go. Find Gonz. Drop out, turn on, tune in.
Live well and prosper.
post #19 of 43
If you can stomach working as a paralegal for a while until you settle in and get a line on the job market, you might think about smaller ski cities like Missoula, Bend, etc. The cost of living is lower than in the bigger cities and there are still a number of jobs since these are not real small towns or towns entirely built on a service economy.
post #20 of 43
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Originally Posted by Bonni
http://www.toonopedia.com/freakbro.htm

I have the whole set of 'toons.
And don't forget Wonder Warthog!:

Go. Find Gonz. Drop out, turn on, tune in.
Live well and prosper.
Good link Bonni. Take me back to early 70's!!! LewBob
post #21 of 43
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Originally Posted by pheft
If you can stomach working as a paralegal for a while until you settle in and get a line on the job market, you might think about smaller ski cities like Missoula, Bend, etc. The cost of living is lower than in the bigger cities and there are still a number of jobs since these are not real small towns or towns entirely built on a service economy.
This sounds like a very good alternative. Bet you can do some homework on line.
post #22 of 43
I smyphatize -- spent 10 years in DC. But now I am back in PC and loving it.

May I make a radical suggestion? You might try to stick it out there for a while. Keep yourself sane by skiing around Boston. Develop a strong career, or a business that you can take with you. The problem with western towns is that everything moves very slowly. (Well, thats a good thing to!) Its hard to establish something that can keep you going in a ski town unless its something like contracting or real estate. But if you think creativly it might be some sacrifice in the short term but you'll build a solid foundation for the future. I hated a fair amount of the time I spent in DC but I don't think I'd change it (except for being more efficient about getting my s*&& together) I am much more comfortable now than I would have been if I'd decided to come home earlier and I have something to do that is rewarding. OTOH, there is no time like the present.. you're just going to have to make that decsion on your own I guess. Good luck.
post #23 of 43
Lodro is right to the extent that it is very difficult to advance a career in a ski town. You tend to stay at the soci-economic level that you enter. You have to leave town to move up, and then you can come back at a higher level.

But if you're going to be poor, do it in a ski town while you are young.
post #24 of 43
My advice, suck it up for a season, pay off as much as you can, live as cheap as you can stand it and forget Denver, SLC etc. Small cities in the west offer some great options. Missoula, Bozeman, Boise, Bend, you get the picture.
If you are serious about changing fields, maybe something part time doing the scut work for a copyright firm can pay off.
post #25 of 43

do with it what you want

You know you have options. If you haven't done it yet go live the life for a year or two then decide, line up a job at a mountain find cheap housing and go. Then pick up a second job at a pizza shop or bar and your good to go. Doesn't sound like your very happy where you are go check out the scene somewhere else make a new plan while your there and go back to the real world when your ready.
post #26 of 43
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Originally Posted by godwinaustin
Allright - I am stuck in Boston as a paralegal and I want to move out to BC or Montana or somewhere wild and cold. I want to ski ALOT. The problem is I have student loans, credit card (nothing big) and I just bought a used Yota Pickup because I needed a car.

So - I got debt - but I cant stand, I will not sit in an office all day. Its not who I am - I feel trapped.

My question is was anyone in the same predicament - what did you do? What kind of jobs are out there for someone like me? Can I make good money in a ski town - I cant live on 7-8 dollars an hour, even with a second job and that has been what has been holding me back. HELP!!!!! : :
Paralegal? Well, life ain't over yet man. You're skiing!

There are 7,8,& 9 $ an hour jobs all over a ski town. Get a job at the area for the pass and get a second job if you care to. Most areas require that you work only 15-20 hrs./wk. to get the pass. I live on one 40 hr./wk. job at the area. It's about 20 yards from the lifts and I get hours a day to ski. I don't like the idea of leaving work to go to work. Unless that work is tracking up the mountain.(100+ days last season) I did however pay off my debt before making the jump but, I work with many people who make it quite well while carrying a little debt.

Peace

P.S.
TAKE THE RISK!
post #27 of 43
step it up, chicken shyte. what you think you're going to be "giving up" will disappear in the face of experience.

I waited to age 38 to do what you're now considering. give me another life, and I'm doing it right after high school.

get it?
post #28 of 43
Go for it!, I left Boston when just got married at 30 , left nice job as a chemist where I got to use my brain and pay and benefits (yeah full health ins) were great , but everytime hit that Mass. line coming back from Vt, N.H., or Me. ski trips I got real depressed. Started thinking I want to "retire" when I'm physically able to enjoy the outdoors not just financially able. Went to Vt. worked in a trade -electrician- and ski 50-75 days year, do ok only miss the brain part of work and the full health but have learned to live on a lot less, cheap vehicles, housing etc. Some people on these sites are always thinking about timing the jump right for financial reasons, maybe thats right for them, but no one knows when your time is up. I'm 42 now and knowing quite a lot if people who are dying from 45-60 not getting their retirements, go have fun Social Security is not going to be there in my future never mine yours. I look at my friends down in Mass. now who have the big houses with the big mortgages and no time to enjoy life because they have to work so much.
post #29 of 43

Patience is a virtue

I lived in NJ for 6 years. Job sucked, the pay sucked and the skiing sucked. I started looking for a job out west and even scoped out one location, Seattle, which is where I ultimately moved to. Job is great, the pay is great and Seattle is awesome. I'm 45 minutes from Skiing, 5 minutes from water and can drive up to Whistler every year for some epic skiing. (Used to drive 5 plus hours up to Vermont's Mt Snow, now I drive 5 hours up to Whistler, you decide which is better) Just take your time and good things come to those who wait and plan accordingly.
post #30 of 43
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Originally Posted by godwinaustin
well thats just it - I dont want to stay in the legal profession - as a paralegal its the opposite of everything I like - theres no creativity, thats left up to the lawyers.

If I have to get into an office job I was thinking of Copywriting - something to get paid while writing.

But every job out there demands experience and you have to wonder how these people get experience if all the jobs require experience in the first place! :
Even though you want out...use the legal profession to make a transition and then you can make a second transition in your vocation. Everyone want to do everything at once....but it is not always practical.

Of course, you can always file personal bankruptcy and then make a move. It will screw up your credit for a while but today you can reestablish it in time.

I have several friends who made the transition, includiing my son, in the past. Use whatever experience you have to get established and move on to another way of earning a living. If you had some money and no debt then you could take a chance.

Some of the younger forum members would probably laugh at my caution but I had to bail out my son many, many times until he got established. He was lucky that I could and was willing to help. My advice would be to do it anyway you can even if it is not exactly what you want. Everything in life worth achieving is a progression not a single event.

My wife and I will be making a move to the west soon but we are at the other end of the age scale and have some means to make the move.

Good luck.
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