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Fastest Wax

post #1 of 8
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Hi All,
For those of you interested in tuning your own skis, what the fastest was you've used? I've been testing a lot of waxes for my athletes (I'm a coach in Canada) but would love to hear of other peoples opinions. Fire away!

I've found that the Toko Helix is the fastest 1-2 time use wax. With one coat you can feel the difference for a couple of runs. It's unbelievable. It's almost even scary!
post #2 of 8
I use and enjoy Swix FC8/10/12 and the BD and HF waxes, because that is whats available to me.

I think the preparation means a lot more than the particular brand of wax, so long as you are using the right wax and techniques for the right conditions.

Flouro overlays really can be scary fast eh? I strongly believe that not training with these waxes and using them only on race day is a bad move.
-Garrett
post #3 of 8
Skiingman said:

"I've found that the Toko Helix is the fastest 1-2 time use wax. With one coat you can feel the difference for a couple of runs. It's unbelievable. It's almost even scary!"


When you say scary, are you referring to how much money you're burning up in those coupel of runs? That stuff is pretty darned expensive.
post #4 of 8
Haha, I didn't say that....marbleman did

Nothing is too expensive in skiing, remember?
post #5 of 8
Waxing is very user specific. Of the top brands (Toko, Swix, Holmenkohl, Briko...) they all are good. It is by trial and error to find which works best in which conditions, temperature, etc. I use Swix now, and have pretty well figured it out, but I do make a wrong choice every once and a while. I've prepped a few skis last year for a few younger racers that have never had a true race prep, always parent or coach. They couldn't even remain static in the start house.
post #6 of 8
the fastest wax is the one you wished you had put on.
post #7 of 8
Betaracer and skiingman are definately hitting it home. It's not -just- the wax; it's the wax, the tech, -and- the conditions. One could easily argue that Swix HF wax is faster hands down to an LF, but you take an HF8 and put it on a ski and it turns out your in below zero weather with snow that's dry as a bone... no chance in hell it'll be better than an LF4. [although I might have to look into that new HF BD]

It's a lot more than just the right wax, it's the right wax and the right procedures. I always used to look at the guys brushing their skis and think "oh give me a break", until I borrowed a brush and saw the effect.

You give a stick of Swix CH [that stands for CHeep wax ] to someone that knows how to tune, and that'll beat hands down a wax that costs 3 or even 10 times the price, put on by someone that doesn't tune well.

And then of course, even if you -do- get the best wax and a tune that would make an olympian proud... can you ski those speeds?

Personally I use Swix... because at the end of the season I can pull all the little leftover wax chunks out of my pockets, and figure out what they are. I still have piles of toko and other waxes that I have -no- idea what their temp range and formulation are.... swix I know
post #8 of 8
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Originally Posted by Spectre
And then of course, even if you -do- get the best wax and a tune that would make an olympian proud... can you ski those speeds?
Thus my complaint that 99 percent of kids that prep for race day with flouro overlays have never trained on it....not a good idea IMO.
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Personally I use Swix... because at the end of the season I can pull all the little leftover wax chunks out of my pockets, and figure out what they are. I still have piles of toko and other waxes that I have -no- idea what their temp range and formulation are.... swix I know
Good point. I like that as well.

My "everyday" waxing is pretty simple. First of all, it is every day I ski. Forget a day and you'll need a stonegrind to get the base back.

Hotwax ski with appropriate temp, brush with two different rotobrushes, leave remaining wax on edges. The rotobrushes reduce an hour of brushing to about 3 minutes.

Even though my whole wax procedure only takes 15 minutes, and even though I use CHeep wax on cold dry days and LF on the wetter warmer ones, I still glide faster than most. The past two days at Killington especially...must be people haven't waxed their stuff yet this year.
-Garrett
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