EpicSki › The Barking Bear Forums › On the Snow (Skiing Forums) › Ski Gear Discussion › Skis 'everybody" [here, magazine] loves that you didn't like
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Skis 'everybody" [here, magazine] loves that you didn't like

post #1 of 29
Thread Starter 
For example:

VOLKL 5 STAR

I tried it last year for a day.
Solid at speeed, good edge hold.
Downfall was not good at varying radius turns.
Also, simply put, it just didn't put a smile on my face

K2 XP

Very smooth and stable in groomed or crud but it felt lifeless to me. Imagine necrophilia on skis I guess.

...in contrast to the Dynastar Inuit 74 or SkiCross 10 which put ear to ear grins on my face
post #2 of 29
Atomic SX11's skied them and could't wait to take em off.
post #3 of 29
salomon crossmax 10s skied like shite. salomon xtra hot skied sheisty. salomons in general seem to not hold an edge and generally suck. also wasnt that impressed with the sx11. preferred the gsx racers.

then again i think the pocket rocket is gods gift to man -- you really feel the snow.
post #4 of 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by mad323
salomon crossmax 10s skied like shite.
I agree with this! Also, I have not likes any of the HEAD products that I have demoed, eventhough they have come highly recommended by people I have spoken to. They seemed sluggish to me and didn't seem to have that bite that is so often needed on New England slopes.

I absolutely LOVED the Volkl 4, 5 and 6 stars when I demoed them. I tried them in that order and they just seemed to get better and better as I did. I ended up with the 6 star.
post #5 of 29
yea the whole head monster series feel like boats, even their slalom ski feels too "heavy". looking to demo some head mojos (heard theyre similar to PRs but perform a little better in crudd). rossi skis look nasty and are sub-par except for b3 and 9s wc
post #6 of 29

....

pocket rockets felt like noodles. The Heads with intellifiber tech feel way too heavy for non-race skis.
post #7 of 29
Worst skis I've been on the last ten years: Fischer Sceneo (500's? I think). Absolute garbage. Impossible to hold a straight like. Funky, clunky, nothing at all to like.

Could have been a bad tune, but I didn't think so. Of course, everybody here raved about them about 2 or 3 years ago. :
post #8 of 29
I don't really like the feel of French skis (not a poltical jab!) vs. German at all. Really disliked every Salomon I've ever skied. Perhaps foam core doesn't do it for me. I think its the snow feel. They manage to feel harsh and disconnected at the same time.
post #9 of 29
Second the 5*..... I demoed the first generation in a flat ski w/ demo binding. I took them out for the whole day. In the morning I felt I could ski anything and was in heaven. By afternoon (when I was tired) they kicked me in the butt. My friends said I looked like I was struggling and I was. I was so glad to get back on my P50 Platinums for the last run of the day.
post #10 of 29
Never meet a ski I didn't like. Well except for that Rossi La Rental. Great on the groom but really threw me around in the heavy cut-up powder.
post #11 of 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by carvemeister
Worst skis I've been on the last ten years: Fischer Sceneo (500's? I think). Absolute garbage. Impossible to hold a straight like. Funky, clunky, nothing at all to like.

Could have been a bad tune, but I didn't think so. Of course, everybody here raved about them about 2 or 3 years ago. :
I guess there is no accounting for taste. I have a pair of Fischer Sceneo 500 @ 170cm and a pair at 160cm. They remain among my favorite skis. They were never designed to track a straight line with dimensions of 118-68-100mm. If someone has a pair of 170cm unmounted and in the wrapper I would still snap them up.
post #12 of 29
I won't take the bait. I'll be very politically correct and state that not every model available will be ideal for everyone. That goes for the brand (and now plural) which I have a direct involvement with.
post #13 of 29
The Head i.75 just didn't do it for me (as mentioned in my marathon demo post last year). Felt like dead wood. Especially just about the time I expected it to come alive.

What will it be this year for me? Watch this space; I'm going to be putting in two days demoing the weekend of the 20th. At least that's the plan at this point in time!
post #14 of 29
Rossi B3's.

WAY too light and soft and since I tend to muscle my turns, I could overpower the B3 very easily. I loved last years Sugar Daddies though, but someone with a lighter touch might be inclined to disagree.

I also second the XP's. "Necrophilia on skis" is a very apt description since they just didn't feel lively at all.
post #15 of 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by carvemeister
Worst skis I've been on the last ten years: Fischer Sceneo (500's? I think). Absolute garbage. Impossible to hold a straight like. Funky, clunky, nothing at all to like.

Could have been a bad tune, but I didn't think so. Of course, everybody here raved about them about 2 or 3 years ago. :
Sceneo 400s and 500s were awesome. I like skis with shape though, perhaps you don't.

You'd prolly really hate last years Fischer WC SC.
post #16 of 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lodro
I don't really like the feel of French skis (not a poltical jab!) vs. German at all. Really disliked every Salomon I've ever skied. Perhaps foam core doesn't do it for me. I think its the snow feel. They manage to feel harsh and disconnected at the same time.
Frankly, I'm built more like an Austrian than a Frenchman. Not meant to be stereotypical, but its largely true.

My favorite skis involve wood, metal, and lots of fiberglass. They tend to come from Austria and Germany.
post #17 of 29
Third K2 XP. Pretty much dead weight. Same can be said for the Salomons.
post #18 of 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMatt426
Rossi B3's.
Second that. Eeew.
post #19 of 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by skiingman
Sceneo 400s and 500s were awesome. I like skis with shape though, perhaps you don't.

You'd prolly really hate last years Fischer WC SC.
I like skis with lots of shape and loved the WC SC. Demoed them last year on very icy conditions, and almost bought a pair, but couldn't find a good deal on them.

When I said the Sceneos couldn't hold a straight line, I didn't mean running them flat. I meant to say they didn't track well in a turn. No directional stability. They almost felt like the bases were convex. By all indications, I would have thought it was a horrendously bad tune. And a friend and I had both demoed them at a Demo day, and had both just picked them up at the demo van. After the first few turns we both had the exact same reaction, and neither could believe how bad they skied.

We brought them back to the demo van and told the Fischer rep how bad they skied and told him it must be a bad tune, and he said "No way." So I had no other choice but to blame it on being a crappy ski.

But since so many here loved them, I'll have to defer to the unlikely, but more logical conclusion that somebody must have screwed up a van load of Fischer Demos. :
post #20 of 29
Volkl 4 star with what feels like folding tips. Forget the paper knife, use these shovels to frost a cake ...

Rossi RPM 100 -- Are these made from truck leaf springs? They are too stiff. Ski them short for a death defying trip.

Salomon Hot -- "Hot"? say's who? Salomon Lukewarm is way better -- these make the Rossi B2 look overflowing with energy yet lack the Rossi's stability. Huh? How can you do that?
post #21 of 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese
Atomic SX11's skied them and could't wait to take em off.
Agree didn't like at all. Smooth, but dead and just too damn stiff, didn't want to make short radius turns.
post #22 of 29
Solomon Hot. Felt like the least durable skis I have ever been on. Sort of felt like I was on cardboard. Then again Im not a big fan of anything solomon has our right now. They dont seem to be keeping up with the other major companys in quality or innovation.
post #23 of 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by Finndog
Agree didn't like (SX:11) at all. Smooth, but dead and just too damn stiff, didn't want to make short radius turns.
Wow. Unforgiving, yes, but lively, snappy, quick, tenacious, and very happy making lots of medium or short radius turns was my impression. I thought they were a blast to ski on the groomed stuff.
post #24 of 29
I'll jump on the train and go "fourth" on the K2 Axis XP.

A few year's back, the SoCal rep let my brother and I have the first runs at Mammoth on them before they we're released. He was quite surprised when when reported that they were kind of bland. he predicted that they would be great sellers and even a ski of the year. Turns out, we were both right.
post #25 of 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by carvemeister
Wow. Unforgiving, yes, but lively, snappy, quick, tenacious, and very happy making lots of medium or short radius turns was my impression. I thought they were a blast to ski on the groomed stuff.
Skied these just after skiing 6* and there was no comparison. Snappy, OK, I'll give you that. But after being on the 6* for an hour, they left me with this impression. Maybe if I started with the 11's I would have felt differently.

I will add B3 Bandits to the lifeless list as well, Carvemeister, your thoughts?
post #26 of 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by Finndog
Skied these just after skiing 6* and there was no comparison. Snappy, OK, I'll give you that. But after being on the 6* for an hour, they left me with this impression. Maybe if I started with the 11's I would have felt differently.

I will add B3 Bandits to the lifeless list as well, Carvemeister, your thoughts?
Never skied the B3. Skied the SX:11 and the 6* about a year apart. The SX at Aspen and the 6* at Killington, so it's hard to compare the two. I liked the 6* a lot, edgehold was as good as it gets, a bit damper than the SX, but still lively. 6* a bit more GS-like to me, fun to ski, but a little more work to ride all day long. Both were great skis, for groomed slopes. Neither was great in the bumps, with the SX more likely to launch me if I got back a bit, and more of a rockin' ride due to more rebound.

But different days, different legs, different Karma (hard for me to dislike anything when skiing at Ajax) so your comparison might be more accurate.
post #27 of 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by Finndog
Skied these just after skiing 6* and there was no comparison. Snappy, OK, I'll give you that. But after being on the 6* for an hour, they left me with this impression. Maybe if I started with the 11's I would have felt differently.

I will add B3 Bandits to the lifeless list as well, Carvemeister, your thoughts?
I found XXX's to be a little lifeless too. Not good, not bad, just blah. They didn't feel really good or bad at anything. And I tried the B2W - even more blah.

I demoed some SX11s though and loved them. Really really fun, fast and in control. I haven't tried 6*'s though so maybe I should sometime.
post #28 of 29
Rossi B2. Had been skiing Volkl G31 and Crossrangers for 4 seasons and the B2 felt like a noodle and not much of a ski. The Bandit XX was a better ski.
post #29 of 29
Altagirl and Carve, The 11 was just not as eager to git' up and go as the 6* The 6* got up on edge much easier and was much quciker on short turns. The 11 seemed mare happy to make more GS type turns. It was rock stable and damp. What I also didn't like like was the lack of good snow feel. I think that's more of an Atomic trait though. But hey, I'm on Heads now!
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Ski Gear Discussion
EpicSki › The Barking Bear Forums › On the Snow (Skiing Forums) › Ski Gear Discussion › Skis 'everybody" [here, magazine] loves that you didn't like