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Skiers Edge machines

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
Sorry if this has been discussed before - have been thinking about getting the Big Mountain series with the All Mountain Master footpads. Has anyone used these machines? I would appreciate advice on suitability for expert skiers (race ski club), including children from 12 years up... durability, etc...

Many thanks!
post #2 of 14
And maybe a comparison to the Pro Fitter if anyone is familar with both............
post #3 of 14
I have a big mtn series. I like it cause it does promote proper knee and inside foot action. However you do have to make an effort to use the proper movements (which is good). I have seen people bring their bad habits to the machine. It is also good for practicing a quite upper body. There is also no way to use any rotary foot action, so they're good for teaching keeping your foot straight and rolling your ankle only. Start by trying to go 5 minutes non-stop, then 10 and work your way up to 30. It is very good skiing specific arobic exercise.

They have been discussed here many times and most agree they are good machines, especially if you can get a used one and not have to pay new price.

I know nothing of the pro fitter.
post #4 of 14
Originally Posted by Arby
They have been discussed here many times and most agree they are good machines, especially if you can get a used one and not have to pay new price.
I am not sure about that.

I think they are a waste of money.

I had an S4 All Mountain Master for about 2 years.

It neither strengthened my legs, built up endurance, or improved my skiing.

If you are a beginner and out of shape it is good. It is more of a fun novelty then anything. Kids will love jumping on it.

If you are advanced adult skier and are an active person then you will find it boring after the first week.

It also seems that they have jacked up their prices as my old machine had appreciated over 2 years so I sold it on Ebay.

The big mountain series is a little bigger then the classic but still not that great.

If anything the new World Cup Plyometric is the best because you can get better edge angles versus just sliding back and forth with the other two models.

The Pro Fitter is smaller, cheaper, and less fluid. It is kind of jerky when you get towards the sides.

It too can get boring after a while and does not neccessarily promote better skiing.

I think balance devices such as wobble boards, bongo boards, BOSU, and stability balls do more to promote better skiing fitness then a Skiers Edge.
post #5 of 14
The Pro Fitter actually gets much less jerky as you get more skilled at it. That is the one improvement in my skiing that I have seen from using it. I'm less likely to have a jerky, forceful turn iniation.

It does not have all the bells and whistles that the Skier's Edge has, but given that there are about 20 threads on Epic discussing Skiers Edge, all of them giving it mix reviews {especially Bob Barnes} I did not feel like spending the extra money.

I have found the Pro Fitter to be effective for other muscles conditioning exercises, such as abductor work, upper body and core.
post #6 of 14
Thread Starter 
Anyone use the World Cup Plyometric Power (+ slope simulator)? How suitable is this for younger race skiers? Higher resistance than other models? Thanks...
post #7 of 14
I have a several year old Skier Edge, am an aging expert (the steeper and icier the run the more intermediate I become), and think the machine is great for conditioning and form. Have had several family members (who thought it was not big deal) try it out for 4 or 5 minutes and huff and puff like an old steam engine.
post #8 of 14
I own one its great and will definitlely improve your overall fitness and skiing if used regularly
post #9 of 14
I own one a few years old and never use it, although it is great. I wish I had a treadmill.

Anyone want to trade locally?
post #10 of 14
The current trend towards balancing while strength training has given me a renewed interst in my skiers edge. I have the coach bar which helps me anchor the elastic tubes that I use. Even so I find indoor trainers so boring. Maybe I should try to read on the thing.
post #11 of 14
Originally Posted by justanotherskipro
Even so I find indoor trainers so boring. Maybe I should try to read on the thing.
Set it up in front of the TV and pop a ski video into the CD/VCR player.
post #12 of 14
Doesn't help. A ski video only reminds me that I am not out skiing.
post #13 of 14
how many types of workouts are actually fun? A half hour on the skiers edge isnt that much and only a tiny chunk out of the day.
post #14 of 14
If it had a way to turn the feet beneath the body it would be a better product. The training manual suggests upper body countering as a way to practice rotary skills. This is the opposite of what we teach on skis, so IMO doing this would be counter productive training. It allows angulation better than my aerobics slide but that's about it (if I only had some round bottomed shoes). BTW an aerobics slide costs less than twenty dollars, inline skates cost a few hundred dollars and a good bike is under a thousand dollars. If I had to choose, I would buy them before the skiers edge. Don't believe all of their hype, it is only a gym machine.
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