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post #31 of 45
See that's so bad it's cool!
post #32 of 45
Thread Starter 
Yes, never let someone intentionally unkempt try to convince you it's an accident. Anti-style is high-style. Or as a certain Cynic philosopher once said, "Through the hole in your shirt I can see your vanity."
post #33 of 45
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Originally Posted by RotoFury
Anti-style is high-style.
With that kind of philosophy nobody can not care. Everybody is either stylin' or anti-stylin'. Personally, my hodge-podge of gear comes to me because of price, comfort, utility, or performance. If I'm anti-style, but really style minded, so be it. It certainly isn't a thought-out process.
post #34 of 45
I couldn't care less what it looks like. All I care about is what it does.
post #35 of 45
There is a long thread on the Scratch BC graphics from about a year ago---maybe? do a search and read that. Rossi even made a corporate retraction of those graphics as I recall.

EDIT: Here is the thread: http://forums.epicski.com/showthread...ratch+Graphics

Utah49---maybe this is what you could do with the seth pistols.

Last year at ESA at Snowbird my group was coming out from lunch and this guy slides up the corrall dressed entirely in desert camoflage (sp). I really mean entirely---his pants, jacket, helmet, goggle strap, gloves, poles, boots, ski's---everything was matching hand painted in the same brown hues used in desert storm (I presume---wasn't there). I think the only thing not camo---was his goggle lens.

He seemed to be by himself---I wonder why?

Anyway---he may be a local, maybe you could find him and get something similar done to a pair of Seth Pistols
post #36 of 45
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Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese
I will admit to being vain. There are some UGLY skis out there that I would never ski. Rossi RPM's come to mind, the new Dynamic VR17 & 27's are yucky. Some of the Cross-max's look like a clown threw up on them. Bleech.
Owww...excellent description. I hate the crossmax graphics my brother has a pair. Come to think of it, I think all salomon skis are pretty bugly. But I love my VR17s. Stealth black/pruple and yellow. Thisyear they have the classic two yellow lines. You might be thinking of the VR27s only?
post #37 of 45
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pheft
With that kind of philosophy nobody can not care. Everybody is either stylin' or anti-stylin'. Personally, my hodge-podge of gear comes to me because of price, comfort, utility, or performance. If I'm anti-style, but really style minded, so be it. It certainly isn't a thought-out process.
I truly hope you didn't think I was being critical of you. I was just having some fun, waxing philisophic. My post was intended to be amusing, not a dig at you or any other member. I apologize if it came off that way.
post #38 of 45
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by skier_j
There is a long thread on the Scratch BC graphics from about a year ago---maybe? do a search and read that. Rossi even made a corporate retraction of those graphics as I recall.
Fascinating! It's funny, as I have referenced that ski in design meetings (not ski design) as a brilliant use of negative space. I firmly believe, from a strictly design standpoint, that ski is a masterpiece. It's matte finish, negative space, simplicity, and hint of controversy (in the junior model she wasn't topless) made for what should have been award-winning creative.

Funny that I own a public relations firm and still am suprised that there was any major fallout. We sure do live in a sensitive society.

EDIT: Wait! I just read several more of the posts on the scratch topic from last year. The version I saw was the silhouette of a topless woman along one side of the ski. I saw nothing with violence or mysogeny. The high-design I am referring to was not the one that I suspect offended so many.
post #39 of 45
I have in the rebellious stage years ago where I went out of my way NOT to match. Today I can afford to have my wife stand in the lift line and not be embarrassed . But there are some skis out there that are just bu-utt ug-lee.
post #40 of 45

The offensive Scratch BC

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Originally Posted by RotoFury
The version I saw was the silhouette of a topless woman along one side of the ski. I saw nothing with violence or mysogeny. The high-design I am referring to was not the one that I suspect offended so many.
This was the one you probably described (2003/2004):


This is the ski that caused the controversy (2004/2005):


This is the resolution:
post #41 of 45
oh God, not that string again, please!
post #42 of 45
Thread Starter 
Yes the top one is the one I described. Not the one beneath it. I believe the bottom one is the junior model.

Anyway, this whole thing makes me think of the film "Spinal Tap," when the band released the album "Smell the Glove," featuring a cover depicting a woman on all 4's with a dog collar and chain sniffing a glove.

The band was accused of "sexism" for the vulgar cover image. To which they countered, "Yes it is very sexy!" That scene killed me. It sounds like Rossi confused the terms as well. Though the top graphic is, from a design standpoint, downright amazing.
post #43 of 45
OK, I'll bite, from a pure art sense, yes very creative and powerful.
post #44 of 45
Thread Starter 
Yes, I surely don't want this to turn into a debate. I referenced the scratch in my initial post with zero knoweldge that there was an X rated version (for lack of a better description), just a PG-13 and PG. I have said what impresses me about the graphic artistically. And that's all I meant when defined Black Diamond as: "I ski on Rossi Scratch even though I've never been to the park" ... love 'em or hate 'em, the design is high-concept.
post #45 of 45
I'd say I'm a green circle. I like my skis as plain as they can be, I could really care less how they look more about how well I can ski on them
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