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Dynastar Legend 8000 length?

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by powderpig
Im considering the Legend 8000 for this years skis but Im not sure which size would be best. Im 6'1'' / 200 lbs. and an advanced skier. I currently ski a pair of Dynastar Skicross 66 in a 186cm but they feel a bit long. Im just not really accustomed to shorter skis and dont know how short is too short. The 8000 comes in a 178 and 172 but I dont know which size would be best. Any suggestions?

Thanks!
-Pig
Powderpig asked this question on another thread, but the title did not mention the skis.

I'm interested in the replies to this question, as I'm planning to demo a pair of Legend 8000s and am considering them for my "not hard snow" skis. I'm of average skill, weigh 150 and stand 5'8".
post #2 of 15
Oboe

My first reaction is 170 cm, but it's a matter of personal preference as you know. My son is 5'8" 180 lbs and he really liked the 165 cm when he demoed them vs the 170cm, so who knows.
post #3 of 15
Thread Starter 
As I understand it, the lengths in which the Legend 8000 are being sold are: 158, 165, 172, 178, and 184. It's noteworthy that your son - who is my height and weighs 30 pounds more than I do - likes the 165. Has he skied them in foot-deep snow yet?
post #4 of 15
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Originally Posted by oboe
It's noteworthy that your son - who is my height and weighs 30 pounds more than I do - likes the 165. Has he skied them in foot-deep snow yet?
He skied them both in about 10" inches of snow on open thin eastern trails and in tight trees. He thought the 172's were cumbersome in initiating turns as compared to the 165's. On wide open trails doing GS turns his opinion may have been different but I doubt it as he likes "quick" and responsive skis.
post #5 of 15
Oboe,

I would think no shorter than 172. As you can see there are some varying ideals though. My opinion is based on the old 4x4 Big with an 80-mm waist, but a tad less sidecut and full vertical sidewalls. If you were asking me the same question about a ski like the every so popular Pocket Rocket, I'd say in the 170's (well actually 175) as well. The L-8000 isn't all that wide, so I am surprised to hear that some people think it is cumbersome to ski in a 172.

Anyhow, if you go too short on a fatter mid-fat, then you will lose surface area and therefore float. I'd be curious to hear your personal thoughts once you've demoed a pair.
post #6 of 15

Ledgend 8000 size?

Coming off of the 186cm SC66 you will be perfectly happy with the 178cm, if you felt that the SC66 was a little to much ski then go to the 172cm.

Coup!
post #7 of 15
It's probably worth nothing that the 8000 skis a bit short, IMO, due to the turned up tail.
post #8 of 15
I am 6" 180lbs and own the 184 but demoed the 178 a couple of months ago and the 184 is definitely the right length for me. These skis are lighter and easier to turn than most skis in the mid fat all mountain class, so they can be skied longer than things like the 7:24 Pro and Recon. I do think the manufacturers have gone slightly overboard with the short ski message, with virtually any modern ski I am sure that someone with good technique can turn anything from 170 - 190 cm with ease. I am really surprised that Dynastar do not make a 190cm Legend 8000, as I am sure there are bigger guys out there who will overpower the 184.

For powderpig at 200lbs the 172 is WAAAAY to short unless he is a rank beginner (which I doubt). I would say 178cm if he does short turns in trees and moguls all day long, 184cm if you ever want to crank up the speed in powder or on a groomer.
post #9 of 15
Thread Starter 
I plan to start with the 165 and 172 for comparison and will let you know what I experience. First requirement: SNOW, right here, damit!
post #10 of 15

Thanks for the responses!

For powderpig at 200lbs the 172 is WAAAAY to short unless he is a rank beginner (which I doubt). I would say 178cm if he does short turns in trees and moguls all day long, 184cm if you ever want to crank up the speed in powder or on a groomer.


*** This is exactly what I was looking for, thanks Kiwiski!***

Think Im set on the 178...now if the local hills would open up I could take them for a test drive!
post #11 of 15
Thread Starter 
So at 5'8" and 150 pounds, would you say that the 165 would fit my eastern skiing needs?
post #12 of 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach13
It's probably worth nothing that the 8000 skis a bit short, IMO, due to the turned up tail.
Also because Dynastar and Rossignol and some other European manufacturers measure their skis by material length instead of cord length. That adds 1-3cm to the advertised length.

Example, my old K2 slalom skis at 204cm were only 1cm shorter than my Rossignol 207cm skis.
post #13 of 15

8000 length?

Quote:
Originally Posted by oboe
So at 5'8" and 150 pounds, would you say that the 165 would fit my eastern skiing needs?
It would be a mid fat carver! The 172 cm is your ski my friend, don't over think it! I've got a whole lot of days on these skis (background, I first skied this ski in July of 2003)and I assure you the 165 cm is a little short and the 178 cm a little long (more than likely). I'm 5'9" 200lbs and my style is fast and furious, and I'm on the 178cm.

coup
post #14 of 15
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Originally Posted by kiwiski
For powderpig at 200lbs the 172 is WAAAAY to short unless he is a rank beginner (which I doubt). I would say 178cm if he does short turns in trees and moguls all day long, 184cm if you ever want to crank up the speed in powder or on a groomer.
kiwi,

based on your metrics, me being 5'8" and 160lbs (advanced skier), you would recommend the 172's...correct?

cheers,
powsniffr
post #15 of 15
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Originally Posted by sjcoll
kiwi,

based on your metrics, me being 5'8" and 160lbs (advanced skier), you would recommend the 172's...correct?

cheers,
powsniffr
Yeah, the 172 will do you fine.
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