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Volkl Explosiv discontinued?

post #1 of 18
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I was in a ski shop the other day, and the proprietor insisted that the Explosiv has been discontinued. Given that the ski is still listed on Volkl's sight, and that it is still hugely popular and getting rave reviews, I have my doubts that this guy knows what he's talking about. Does anyone know the true story on this question?
post #2 of 18
Dang, that wouldn't be good.

Looks like a good time for me to have a basement full of the next best thing - the Machete Fat Bastard!
post #3 of 18
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No, it wouldn't be good. I bought a pair of beat up used Explosivs, and I dream of owning a shiny new pair someday. I'll be heartbroken if my dream is crushed.
post #4 of 18
These sticks are continued to be manufactured and distributed solely for the North American market by Voelkl.
They are only discontinued for the European market right now.
post #5 of 18
PowHog is correct. Though I don't know anything about its availability anywhere else, the Explosiv continues to be produced and is a current model in the US 04/05 lineup.
post #6 of 18
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Originally Posted by Colossus178
Given that the ski is still listed on Volkl's sight, and that it is still hugely popular and getting rave reviews...
I'd say that the V-Ex has become a ski icon, but wouldn't go so far as to say that they are hugely popular. If it wasn't for PowMag write-ups and the CMH's that Mntlion has been supplying, I'd say that they might even be more obscure. On powdwer days in the Sierras, I am lucky to see any other V-Ex riders with their boards out to play. On the other hand, XXX's and PR's run rampant at Mammoth and Squaw.

Don't get me wrong...I have a pair and absolutely love them. But with the Karma now in the line-up and surge in demand for the Gotama (rumor has it that the US stock is already gone foe the seaon), I wouldn't be surprised if the V-Ex went away in the US as well...Notice has been served...you might want to grab a pair before they're gone...
post #7 of 18
My local shop just got a few pairs of Explosivs in stock..Volkl is definitely selling them in the US this year.
post #8 of 18
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Any idea how the Karma measures up to the Explosiv? The Explosiv is an older ski, and it may be that technology has surpassed it.
post #9 of 18
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Originally Posted by Colossus178
Any idea how the Karma measures up to the Explosiv? The Explosiv is an older ski, and it may be that technology has surpassed it.

any one know how apples mesure up to oranges?
post #10 of 18
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What are you trying to say?
post #11 of 18
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Originally Posted by Colossus178
Any idea how the Karma measures up to the Explosiv? The Explosiv is an older ski, and it may be that technology has surpassed it.
Karma is softer without the alloy laminate construction, twin-tipped, and has more sidecut. Call it Volkl's answer to the Pocket Rocket, but with a wood core and no cool robot-graphic. It ought to be a nice ski for a lot of folks out there.

Explosiv is about as stiff as they come, amd it has a wood-core, alloy laminate construction, making it damp and solid at speed. It has minimal sidecut, making it great for deep and variable snow. The lack of sidecut also allows the skier to steer the skis in deep snow, versus having the skis hook-up at unwanted times. In longer lengths, it takes a skilled pilot to ski effectively. It has to be one of the best powder/crud skis, IMO. For the Sierras, it is as good on 3" of windblown as it is in 3' of blower. It is the total antithesis of skis like the Pocket Rocket.

I wished that I had gotten on a pair earlier in life, as they have totally changed the way I ski big mountains. I currently have both a 180 and 190 in the quiver. I used to own Pocket Rockets, too...for reference sake.
post #12 of 18
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Originally Posted by Bandit Man
Explosiv .....It is the total antithesis of skis like the Pocket Rocket.
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Care to elaborate? What did you not like and like about the PR compared to the Volkl?
post #13 of 18
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Originally Posted by Jim S
Care to elaborate? What did you not like and like about the PR compared to the Volkl?
At the risk of overusing another metaphor, let me compare it to the automotive world. The PR would be a Subaru WRX and the V-Ex would be a Hummer H2. They both have all-wheel-drive, but that is the end of the comparison. The PR, like the Subi, is just fun...nimble, light, and easy to manuever. However, the PR, again like the Subi, has no top end. The H2 on the other hand is really too much vehicle for day to day driving, but given nasty off-road terrain, it feels at home at any speed. It demands a bit more technique and skill from the driver, but the platform delivers all the girth and power that is needed to conquer any terrain or condition.

The PR was my first 90-mm waisted ski. I love it for the trees, tight chutes (where I preferred to turn at the time), and soft pow. It was a good place for me to start. Since I dabble in the park, I rode the PR's there and was very impressed at how they excelled in that arena.

However, as I became more adept at skiing off-piste and my fat ski technique evolved, I felt that the PR's were at their limits. I just needed a more substantial ski. I then migrated to the Seth Pistol. It's too bad that the graphics are so "displeasing to the eye" for so many folks, because that ski is everything the PR's bring and then some. Anyhow, that's a whole different discussion.

Anyhow, I eventually was enticed by the V-Ex, scored a pair for a nice price, and after skiing them a few days, I knew I found what I was after. They are the best ski in my quiver for when there is anything soft on the ground. PR's are great in softer, powder snow, where the V-Ex handles pow, crud, or windblown with equal aplomb...that's a huge advantage in my book.

The V-Ex isn't as difficult to ski as many would assume. It's just too bad the beefy construction scares people away.Anyhow...my thoughts on the matter.
post #14 of 18
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Originally Posted by carvemeister
Looks like a good time for me to have a basement full of the next best thing - the Machete Fat Bastard!
would you say the machete FB skis similar to the explosiv? the only thing ive heard about them is that theyre a lot stiffer than the chubb, which im guessing skis more like the PR? seen a bunch of chubb and FB on ebay, wondering if i should pick up a pair before they go extinct
post #15 of 18
The way I'm drooling when I look at the mountains here I can see walking home with Gotama and Karma! Time will tell.
post #16 of 18
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Originally Posted by Colossus178
I was in a ski shop the other day, and the proprietor insisted that the Explosiv has been discontinued. Given that the ski is still listed on Volkl's sight, and that it is still hugely popular and getting rave reviews, I have my doubts that this guy knows what he's talking about. Does anyone know the true story on this question?
Dec 2005 SKI magazine is devoted to powder and has ski recommendations divided into three categories for skis under 100mm waist: powder day, all mt east, and all mt west. For the pure powder days with waists up to 100mm they listed the Volkl Explosive. So if it's in this issue I guess it's still being offered.

I stopped by Bobo's Mogul Mouse in Reno yesterday to drop my skis off for a tune and they did not have the Exlosive in stock. I was to fried from skiing all day to think to ask if they would get them in.(d'oh!)
post #17 of 18

They are available

Called Bobo's in Reno: they can order the Explosiv, mount for a demo, and if I don't like it apply it to credit for purchase. I'm stopping by on Friday to have them get a pair for 1st weekend of December.

They said the Explosiv are not as stiff as the new Dynastar Legend Pro. Additionally, I rode up with a ski patrolman who had tried the Dynastar Pro, 8800, and 8000 and he said he will be on the 8800 as his everyday ski here; he thought the Pro was way too stiff. (He was about 5' 7" and I'd guess about 170lbs.)
post #18 of 18
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Originally Posted by Duke
any one know how apples mesure up to oranges?
Yes. Quite a tangent, but one of the funnier things I've read:

http://www.improb.com/airchives/pape...-3-apples.html
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