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Marker World Cup Piston Plate

post #1 of 24
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Anyone have any experience with Marker's WORLD CUP PISTON PLATE, Slalom or GS version. Any info or comments would be appreciated!

Thanks
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post #3 of 24
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Interesting, but this is not the MOTION piston it is the World Cup Piston Plate
post #4 of 24
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Originally Posted by Atomicman
Interesting, but this is not the MOTION piston it is the World Cup Piston Plate
I think thats the one I meant...Not sure though.

I'm heading back to the shop tomorrow night to check out the bindings again. I'll try and get as much beta on the motion and world cup plates as I can.
post #5 of 24
I have one on my GS skis, it works very well and can be tuned for different flexs, plus it comes with shims to adjust your stand height. I do have one that is new in the box I would be willing to sell, but I need to check what I would need to get for it, it is last years version but as far as I know they are unchanged.
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Are you restricted to only the Comp 14.0EPS, or can you use an older Comp 1400 as well?

It looks interesting. Seems like no matter what technology manufacturers come out with for the masses the WC guys allways use the plain & simple - you'll never see them monkeying with the Turbo, or a Piston control, etc .

How much do the plates go for ?
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I have them on a pair of Volkl P50 SG 200cm. with Marker EPS 1400s. They ski like, well, super g skiis. The piston plates can be adjusted for flex, but you have to remove the mounting screws to do it, so it's a big hassle. They aren't predrilled, so you can put your favorite binding on. They cost the same as the bindings, so it's not the cheapest option. They come in slalom and gs versions, I have the gs.
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Originally Posted by Woodee
Are you restricted to only the Comp 14.0EPS, or can you use an older Comp 1400 as well?

It looks interesting. Seems like no matter what technology manufacturers come out with for the masses the WC guys allways use the plain & simple - you'll never see them monkeying with the Turbo, or a Piston control, etc .

How much do the plates go for ?
Actually the WC plate does have the piston and this year it has an extension arm like the turbo!

I ended up going with the slalom model (it has 7 cutouts instead of 4) and the Comp 14 EPS with 2 shims is how I mounted it on my new Stockli 166cm World Cup slaloms. I'll let you know how it works!
post #9 of 24
Hey!? If you're ATOMICman, why are you asking about Marker bindings and skiing on Stokli skis? Surely, there are some Austrians rolling around in their graves.
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Originally Posted by fressen
Hey!? If you're ATOMICman, why are you asking about Marker bindings and skiing on Stokli skis? Surely, there are some Austrians rolling around in their graves.
With Miller aboard there might be no place for Atomicman any more on the team so with Stockli he did the most reasonable thing in the world .
(No pun intended, I like your posts, you always know what you´re writing about)
FWIK, the Marker plates are used on the highest level racing.
BTW, anybody remember the old Marker OL PUMPE? It was a huge heavy plate around 1996-97 with a big hydraulic-driven piston, the predecessor of today´s Worldcup plates. Also the most expensive plate in history. There were only a few pieces (Gerg or Seizinger used them) and it should have cost 1400 DM (german marks) then which would be around 1000 USD.
post #11 of 24
Just to clarify - the WC plates have a piston. They do not have a Piston "Control".
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Originally Posted by fressen
Hey!? If you're ATOMICman, why are you asking about Marker bindings and skiing on Stokli skis? Surely, there are some Austrians rolling around in their graves.
I'm guessin' I shouldn't be messin' with fressen, but you are kind of a smartass! Yeah, the Austrians are goin' be real bummed and of course with Bode in, I'm out! I guess i'll have to ski for the Iraqi team this year!

BTW, I do have 23 pair of Atomics in the garage. All current recent usuable skis with bindings.

Had a chance to get some Stockli WC really reasonable. So sue me!
post #13 of 24
Aromicman,
don´t you want to join Pepi Strobl on the Slovenian team?
Or how about the Czech team? The ex-Canadian Stanley Hayer deserted to skiercross (he was 2nd in the first WC-cross in Saas Fee) and we got used to some overseas blood
Your collection is impressive. OTOH, the tuning, waxing and transportation!
post #14 of 24
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AtomicmanAnyone have any experience with Marker's WORLD CUP PISTON PLATE, Slalom or GS version. Any info or comments would be appreciated!

Thanks
The only version of the Plate avaiable for retal is the SL version. The GS plate is only used on the SG and DH skis. It is just a stiffer version. It has a gray rubber rather than the white rubber on the SL one.

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WoodeeAre you restricted to only the Comp 14.0EPS, or can you use an older Comp 1400 as well?

It looks interesting. Seems like no matter what technology manufacturers come out with for the masses the WC guys allways use the plain & simple - you'll never see them monkeying with the Turbo, or a Piston control, etc .

How much do the plates go for ?
You can use just about any marker binding on this plate, the older comp 1400 or the M 9.2.

And the plates go for around $200 retail or $110 on the marker race form.
post #15 of 24
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The GS version has 4 cutouts in the center of the plate, the SL version has 7 which makes it more flexible.
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Actually the 4 cutout plate is the older plate sold untill the 02-03 season. After that the went to the newer plate which is produced in two different types a GS with stiffer gray rubber and a SL with white rubber. Both with the same number of cutouts.
post #17 of 24
I just had the SL world cup piston plate mounted on my slalom skis....I can take some pics and post 'em up if you're interested. I'm putting the Comp 14EPS on them tomorrow, so I can take before and after pics. Just let me know!
post #18 of 24
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Originally Posted by dipstik
I just had the SL world cup piston plate mounted on my slalom skis....I can take some pics and post 'em up if you're interested. I'm putting the Comp 14EPS on them tomorrow, so I can take before and after pics. Just let me know!
Already got 'em and mounted the same setup on my new Stockli WC slaloms. Had them mounted about 3 weeks ago, but thanks for the offer. Maybe you want to see mine all mounted up
post #19 of 24
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Originally Posted by Atomicman
Already got 'em and mounted the same setup on my new Stockli WC slaloms. Had them mounted about 3 weeks ago, but thanks for the offer. Maybe you want to see mine all mounted up

That would be cool. I'll throw up a pic of mine once they're done and we can talk about how rad our new setups are!
post #20 of 24

SL Plate Mounting question

Can anyone clarify the rear hole options on the jig ? What is meant by "short" and "long"?

Obviously the long option will stiffen the tail more than the short option, but ...

Are the "short" holes for slalom plate/skis, and the "long" holes for GS plate/skis? Or, is the "short" for a short SL ski, and the "long" for a long SL ski?

I'm assuming there's only one jig for the GS and SL plates, and the "short" holes are what I want for SL ...

Thanks.
post #21 of 24
You use the holes closest to the tip of the ski regardless. If your boot sole is "short" (>310 or so), use the next set of holes back. If your boot sole is longer, use the most rearward holes.

I think if you use the rear holes, it will make for a stiffer setup too. I have always used the short setup, FWIW.

What skis are you putting the plate on?
post #22 of 24
Ahhh, a third option I didn't think about! So the "short" and "long" designate boot sole length and not ski type or ski length? I see how the front mounting position is dependant on the boot sole length, but the rear is not so intuitive.

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Originally Posted by U.P. Racer
What skis are you putting the plate on?
The SL plate is going on a 165cm Volkl P60 SC Racing World Cup. I've got a big foot (337mm), but I can't bring myself to drill the rear set of holes ... it just seems wrong for a SL ski regardless of my boot size. The short hole position reminds me of the old MRR screws located under the heel.

I'm mounting to the "short" holes ... don't try and stop me.

Thanks U.P.
post #23 of 24
337???
Why bother with the skis?

You'll like those SL's. I'd use the short holes too. I won't try to stop you....
post #24 of 24
I have em on a pair of Gs race skis, I em extremely happy with em, especially in a rutted gnarly course.
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