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Fog at GT

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The week before Christmas this year my family and I are planning a ski trip out west. I am really wanting to go to Grand Targhee, but was wondering if that would be the best place to go as well as most cost effective. Also, is it true that GT fogs in a lot and how would that effect the day for skiing?

Thanks for the input.
post #2 of 12
"Fog @ GT"

taken last day of '04 Gathering

post #3 of 12
I think Grand Targhee is supposed to be one of the best places for early season snow.

We were there a few days before Christmas a couple of years back; I think everything was open, there was a lot of snow (even powder!), and we had a great time. It was not foggy when we were there, but it does have that reputation, so you could experience that.

Uncrowded. Both on the slopes and at the base area. We had a great day skiing, and then sitting in the (uncrowded!) bar at the base having a drink when we were tired.

I think there is everything one would need at the base area, but it is not a big or overly developed area - there are not a lot of options.

And, of course, you can always take a day trip over to Jackson Hole.
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Originally Posted by doktorbanner
The week before Christmas this year my family and I are planning a ski trip out west. I am really wanting to go to Grand Targhee, but was wondering if that would be the best place to go as well as most cost effective. Also, is it true that GT fogs in a lot and how would that effect the day for skiing?

Thanks for the input.
I ski "The Ghee" at least once a week. The light can get very bad at times. Expert skiers can enjoy those days because there is nobody on the hill. My theory is to ski fast and avoid dark objects. Those will be trees, lift towers, rocks or other skiers. Good luck.

Peace
post #5 of 12
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Originally Posted by offpiste
I ski "The Ghee" at least once a week. The light can get very bad at times. Expert skiers can enjoy those days because there is nobody on the hill. My theory is to ski fast and avoid dark objects. Those will be trees, lift towers, rocks or other skiers. Good luck.

Peace
Hey that is my theory in good conditions as well.
post #6 of 12
Ryan,

Nice pic. Looks familiar.

Ed
post #7 of 12
The combination of flat light, fog and wide open spaces can be dangerous at Targhee. I've had two friends, both experienced skiers, suffer extreme vertigo at Targhee on foggy days. One ended up in the lodge all weekend and the other had to stop at a hospital to get his dizziness under control so he could ride back to Bozeman. If the mountain is foggy stay in areas that have trees to help keep your senses oriented. Stop skiing at the first sign of dizziness.
post #8 of 12

Hey, Ed

ya know, the image that invariably comes to mind when i recall GT is seeing you guys (cedric, julie, et al.) hightailing that traverse from the top (getting off Dreamcatcher) toward those trees and fluff (in the aptly named "Powder Area") served by the Blackfoot chair.

Nice place, nice dang day.





photo by jamesdeluxe
post #9 of 12
You know that was a great day and now that I think about it the morning was really flat light. At one point in that "Powder Area" I went flying over a cat track about 10 feet in the air. A much unitended huck.

Late
post #10 of 12
doktorbanner:

The infamous fog at Targhee is largely due to all the snow they get. Snowstorms tend to be cloudy.

If I wanted to have a pretty good chance of skiing powder, I'd want to go to a place where it snows a lot and, ergo, is cloudy a lot. You'll notice that no one makes too much of a thing about foggy days in Colorado - that's because the sun shines all the time and it hardly ever snows there (ducking now ).

I've skied Targhee many, many times and have experienced maybe two days that I would call seriously foggy. Even then, there are plenty of trees at "The 'Ghee" that will help improve your visibility.

If you want to ski powder in a relatively uncrowded environment on a fun hill, give it a shot.

Bob
post #11 of 12

What Fog?

Ok, so visibility is kind of lacking at "Grand Foghee". Where do you think the 504" of annual snow (measured at the base of the mountain) comes from?

Most riders measure the visibility on the number of chairs they can see in front of them. 2-3 chairs visibility is not uncommon, 1 chair or less happens more than I'd like to admit.

But as Bob said, with clouds comes snow. My best days on the mountain are when it's pounding with 25 mph winds. Sends all but the brave inside and there are stashes everywhere.

One of the worst weather days I ever had at Targhee was January 1, 1988. Winds were 25 mph, gusting to 35, snow was 0 to 30" depending on where the wind had put it, and I was getting my butt kicked by a buddy I had taught to ski a couple of years before who now worked in the repair shop. I had taken a "real" job in LA and had come up to ski for the Holidays That day convinced me, to leave LA and move back to Idaho. Anyway, the moral of the sory is, yes it's going to be foggy at Grand Targhee, but the snow will be great.

Realize your other choice would be a 7-10 day high pressure with no new snow - they happen about 2 times a season.

If it's foggy, ski aggressively, with speed and avoid any dark spots that you might see out there. They are usually indicatation of trees, lift towers, people, etc. Ski hard and fast and let your thighs take up the inconsistencies in the snow. You'll be surprise how good the skiing will be.

As far as runs at GT when it's foggy, go to Chief Joe Bowl or go over to Sac. If you can stand the fog and wind, go up DC and then go right, straight into the wind, down TVT for about 500 yards. Then go off either into Lost Groomers or Painted Pony. Once you're down that far, the visibility should clean up a little. Make sure and ski the lower slopes in between TVT and PR Traverse - Powder Keg, Powder Cache, Secret Slope, etc.

For Vertigo, don't look down at your skis, look at something in the distance and focus on that. If you look down to see if you are moving, that's when you get screwed up.

Ryan, great pics. My house is in the center-right of the picture.
post #12 of 12
It's not called Grand Fog-ee for nothing
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