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Rossi RPM90, 9x Oversize, or B1?

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
Hey guys. I have had my current pair of skis (Rossi Bandit X, 182cm) for 5 years, so its time for a change (plus they are way too long!). I have narrowed my list down to the Rossignol RPM 90 (last years model), or the 2005 9x Oversize or B2. I realize the B2 is in a different category from the other 2.

Basically I want something that is ulta-stable at speed, but still happy to do quick turns while travelling slower. I will be mostly sticking to the groomed, but want to be able to head out into powder if the opportunity presents itself.

I cant find out too much about the RPM 90, but it appears to have an identical sidecut to the 9X. Are they the same ski? Or is the 9x more like the RPM 100? Also, I can get the RPM for $150 less than the 9x, so is the 9x worth the extra?

Thanks for your help guys, ive almost searched the entire net, including this forum, but information on the RPM 90, other than a paragraph blurb from rossignol, is very hard to find.
post #2 of 10
Well the 9X oversize isn't that quick going slow. It is based on a gs ski so takes some speed to really crank. If I were you I would look on ebay to save some $. What about the 9S oversize? I think the 9S would be more fun when going slower.
post #3 of 10
If your out east, this advice is for you.

I tried out the 9S and a 9X, both Oversize, at Calabogie peaks last season. Between the 9S Oversize and the 9X Oversize, the 9S is the better choice. Yes, the 9X will make a little bit better turns at a little faster speed and longer turns feel better, but it's still out of it's element if you crank it up to higher speeds, like where you need goggles 'cause glasses don't block enough air to stop your eyes from tearing. The little bit more you gain in GS type turns isn't worth what you give up in quickness for blasting through bumps, so you might as well stay with 9S which destroys the 9X in quick short turns. The 9S will work well enough for speeds you can get up to on most moguled runs, and for the speeds that 90% of the people on easter hills actually ski at. You can take the 9X though the bumps without embarassing yourself, but the 9S is really a lot better.

I don't think either ski would be good for powder.
post #4 of 10
THAT is a good review accompanied by good advice. Thanks, Ghost.
post #5 of 10
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the advice guys. The reason the 9S wasnt on my list is becasue I thought (probably incorrectly) that the tail of it will be too grippy for what I like. I dont want to be having to crave turns everytime, if you know what I mean. Are neither the 9S/9X any good for speed? I love to rip down groomed blue runs basically flat out, and found my old Bandit X's fine for this. Surely these would be better?
post #6 of 10
I know where your coming from. I want it all too.

Realskiers ski reviews say the 9X is good for high speed skiing. http://www.techsupportforskiers.com/..._rossignol.htm
I guess one man's high speed is another man's medium speed: .

It's not that you can't go fairly quickly without fear of losing it, its just that the ski doesn't have the sidecut for a really long radius turn, and it doesn't have enough grip to make a shorter radius turn at high speed. The ski runs out of power before my legs do in terms of how many gs I can pull. To turn at high speed you have to really crank them over hard, and it seems that though you are turning, it's not a nice smooth carve, it's more like your understeering or drifting your car around a corner, (skidding but not a skidded pivot turn if you know what i mean). This is the opposite of what the skis do at slower speeds, where very little effort is required to make them turn.

The X is a bit better than the S at higher speeds, but the S is a LOT better than the X at slower speeds.

The X might have a stiffer tail than the S; it's hard to force it to make a complete hard and fast really tight turn; it enters fine, but it seems to me anyway, that if you want to maintain a short radius turn for some distance, you have to skid the tail a bit, which you don't have to do on the S (maybe I have a forward stance bias?, maybe if I were heavier?). If you only go into the bumps rarely, or really don't care that much about racing your friends through the bumps, you might prefer the X; for me the S is so much better in quickness in short radius turns that the advantage of the X at longer radius isn't enough to compensate me for what I'd be giving up in the bumps. Neither of these skis could handle the speeds I would have liked them to. Yeah, the X was closer, but it was still a mile away.

As for a too-stiff tail being a problem, I found both (all four?) the skis very forgiving.

P.S. Speed is relative. I domonstrated these skis after skiing on my 208 cm Kastle Super-G skis.
post #7 of 10
Well I got my 9X oversize so I could crank! They work well but don't have the grip of my 9s WC. My 9S on the other hand are not stable at high speeds so when I want to real ski fast on groomers I take my 9X's.
post #8 of 10
Thread Starter 
So nobody knows anything about the RPM 90 (2004)? Its got the same sidecut as the 9X, but I understand its slightly softer (5% I read somewhere). Someone must use it here - Ive heard that it was a pretty popular ski last year.
post #9 of 10
Thread Starter 
Has no one had any experience with the RPM 90?
post #10 of 10
Well the rpm is like the 9x just softer. The 9x is a great ski but needs to go FAST. If I were you I would be looking for more of the slalom carvers such as the 9s, streetracer sc, rc4 sc, etc.
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