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Metron XI

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 
Just came back from the ski shop with my 162 cm Metrons. Clicked into the bindings on the family room rug. Jeez, 162 cm looks- appears even shorter when standing in the bindings.

Skiing the family room rug, won't provide much feedback regarding Metron performance. Bigger, stronger, more aggressive skiers than me have skied this ski this short, so I'm excited about the upcoming season.

No excuses for sherking away from double diamomd terrain this season. If I can't stumble down tough stuff on a 162 cm ski , I got a lot of problems.
Anyway, snow can't get here fast enough and I'm sure when I show up in the lift line with what somebody on Epic described as clown shoes, I'll probably feel a little silly at first. I wonder what's up next in ski design?
post #2 of 12
They might seem short and floppy because of the soft oversized tip but beleive me they hold on steep terrain.

Last year I was ripping down some steep runs at Sugarloaf in variable conditions with no problems.

Just make sure the factory tune is good because my tails had way too much bevel out of the wrapper which made them wash out to easily. I had to get the bevels reset for this season.

Once you ski on them for a few days every other ski is going to seem like narrow stick.
post #3 of 12
Thread Starter 

Metron X1

Were the skis out of the wrapper 1 degree bottom 3 degree side? What did you get them re- beveled at?

I hate getting my edges done. I use a stone after most days skiing to preserve the edge as long as possible. I had my Atomic 9'12's tuned last year , requesting 1&3. I don't know what they did and I took them back and had them redo them. The skis were never the same.

Now that you bring it up , the skis washed out (felt like the entire length of edge) when tipped and weighted. I wonder if the skis when tuned had too much side bevel? I felt like I was standing on two banana peels . It was terrible. I've had a couple pair of Atomics and they have skied great out of the wrapper.

Previous posts have indicated the state of the art tuning machines are only as good as the operator. Buying the vises and the guides and the files and everything to do it yourself might not be a bad idea, provided one could read the manuals and do it correctly. My natural inclination with tools is pretty lousy.
post #4 of 12
It sounds like your bases were over beveled after the tune.

My Metrons had as much as 3-4 degrees of bevel in the tails out of the wrapper. I skied them like that for that tail end of last season because I knew I would get them ground before this season.

I have had 3 other Atomics ski awesome out of the wrapper but for some reason the XIs had too much base bevel. I also got the Metrons straight from Atomic before they were in stores so they might have not fine tuned production yet. The shape of the ski makes it very difficult to get an accurate grind and bevel so if the machine is slightly off it will kill the tails.

It's easy to maintain a good tune but it has to start with one first.
post #5 of 12
Most Atomics need to have the base bevel touched up esp at the tip after a base grind because of the concave base. They require a little more attention to detail because of this. You definitely want someone who knows Atomics to tune the skis, because just running them through the tuning machine isn't going to get you a proper tune.

I had a similar experience what you had with my R11's when I had a shop tune them. The tips ended up with 0 degree base bevel where the rest of the ski had 1 degree base bevel. It made the ski almost unskiable, grabby as hell. I brought them back to the shop and they had to touch it up. They explained that because of the concave base at the tip, they need to redo the base bevel at the tip and tail after running it through the grinder. It has something to do with the way the ski tip flattens as it passes through the grinder.

The Metron series I think will be even tougher to tune properly because of the extremely wide tip and tail.
post #6 of 12

M Xi

Is the Metron M:11 intended to replace the R:11 in the Atomic line-up?
post #7 of 12
roundturns,
What made you get the XI Metron? Did you consider the Metron B5? Did you get a good price? Which binding did you get on the XI?

I am thinking of getting the XI for this season.

Thanks,
Ty
post #8 of 12
Thread Starter 

Metron X1

I ended up with the X1 becasue the shp didn't want to let me have the Metron B5 because of the barter -retail swap arrangement that I get my ski equipment through. The ski shop told me that the B5 would be dificult to get on reorder and they only brought in several pair.

Given a choice I would have preferred the Metron B5 . The shop manager alayed my concerns about the stiffness of the Metron X1 by telling me its still a lot of ski and replaces the R 11 Series from last year. I don't know if this is factual or not. I'm 6 ft. 180 lbs. I don't plan on skiing Mach 1 , I just try to ski arc to arc . I'm counting on the X1 to be a wonderful carver.

I skied the SX-9 last year 180cm, and although less ski than the SX 11 , THE 9 was in my opinion pretty "stout" and definitely not a noodle. I am hopeful the same degree of stiffness comparison carries over to the comparison of the Metron B5 and the Metron X1. If so , I should be very content with the X1. I also went very short with a 162 cm.

No doubt the best way to make the choice is to demo both skis. I really can't do that, because the shop might shut down their retail barter deal when the ski season begins and I wouldn't be able to get the skis.

I'll report back on how the ski performs as soon as I can start skiing which hopefully will be Thanksgiving this year. You want to be right about what ski you choose, especially if you're paying retail prices. The Metron B5 is one expensive ski. Also I got the Neox 412 binding. By the way unknown to me this binding comes in about 5 different colors. When I picked the skis up, my bindings were silver not the orange that is shown on the website and how they had the ski set up in the shop.
post #9 of 12
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Originally Posted by wizard
Most Atomics need to have the base bevel touched up esp at the tip after a base grind because of the concave base. They require a little more attention to detail because of this. You definitely want someone who knows Atomics to tune the skis, because just running them through the tuning machine isn't going to get you a proper tune.

I had a similar experience what you had with my R11's when I had a shop tune them. The tips ended up with 0 degree base bevel where the rest of the ski had 1 degree base bevel. It made the ski almost unskiable, grabby as hell. I brought them back to the shop and they had to touch it up. They explained that because of the concave base at the tip, they need to redo the base bevel at the tip and tail after running it through the grinder. It has something to do with the way the ski tip flattens as it passes through the grinder.

The Metron series I think will be even tougher to tune properly because of the extremely wide tip and tail.
I use a TOKO base Bevel Guide on all of our Atomics because it spans the entire width of the ski in the tip and tail thus bridging the concavity and giving the proper base bevel in those areas. The Beast & SVST base beveler's foot (glide) sits right down in the middle of those depressions and you end up with too little base bevel in the tip and tail! This has solved our catchy tip problem and given us accurate bevel in the tip and tail.
post #10 of 12
Atomicman,

Is this the guide you use for beveling the bases on your Atomics?

http://www.artechski.com/Merchant2/m...egory_Code=27A


Thanks,
JonnyMo
post #11 of 12
Yep!
post #12 of 12
Thanks!
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