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Nordica Beast T12 vs. Technica Icon

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
If I can these boots for the same price, and they will both work for me, which one should I buy? Which is the better boot? Any opinions?
post #2 of 17
Whichever one YOU like.

They are both good boots.
post #3 of 17
I have a hard time believing they are equal in fit for you. I tried on both the last time I was buying boots and there was definitely a big difference in fit. Go with whichever boot fits the best.
post #4 of 17
+1 Go with the best fit.
post #5 of 17
Always go with the best fit, but also, which kind of skiing do you intend to do, i.e. will you need a stiffer boot or you can forgo the stiffness factor?
post #6 of 17
Thread Starter 
The Beast was certainly the more comfortable boot (although I didn't have it on for along as the Icon, so it wasn't really a fair test). The reason I'm comparing these boots is that the sticker price of the Icon is a couple hundred dollars more than the Beast, but it has been marked down to the same price. If it's a much better boot, I want to seriously consider it.

I agree with everyone who says "pick the boot that fits you." The only reason I'm considering new boots is that my current pair has a chronic hot spot on my ankle that I just can't rid of, and I'm tired of skiing in pain. I will be much more careful selecting my boots this time.

I don't really know what I need as far as stiffness. I'm a fairly new skier who makes up for lack of technique with strength; I muscle my skis around more than I coax them. I don't think anyone has ever accused me of being centered and balanced over the sweet spot, which means I'm bashing off the front of my boots a lot. Too much stiffness would probably not be a good thing.

That said, I do try to ski all over the mountain, and generally spend more time off the groomers than on. I plan on spending a lot of time on the chutes on the back side of Lake Louise (to learn to ski steep), and I'll probably spend quite a bit of time in the bumps. So I do need some stiffness.

I want the same boot everybody else wants. It has to be stiff enough to give me good control, but not too stiff to be comfortable. It has to be tight enough to be responsive, but not too tight to be worn for five or six days in a row. And, of course, it has to look good... I'm not asking too much, am I?
post #7 of 17
Not sure why the Icon costs more because I thought the Beast had better features like a real booster strap, a warm Outlast liner, better buckles..... I have the Beast and its a fantastic boot. It definitely more boot than you need at your level.
post #8 of 17
Thread Starter 
More boot than I need? I'm hurt...

What would you suggest? I've always believed that money spent on quality footwear is money well spent, and I don't think that ski boots are any different. I want a boot that's comfortable, and that I'm not going to outgrow this year. I expect to get in at least 40 days this year, and hope to advance my skills considerably. Any recommendations?
post #9 of 17
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I don't really know what I need as far as stiffness. I'm a fairly new skier who makes up for lack of technique with strength; I muscle my skis around more than I coax them. I don't think anyone has ever accused me of being centered and balanced over the sweet spot, which means I'm bashing off the front of my boots a lot. Too much stiffness would probably not be a good thing.
This gets into one of those how fast are you planning to progress. From your description you sound like an aggressive intermediate. You probably could easily do with the Nordica W10 or W12. If you feel you are a beginning expert and hope to make a major progression at the academy then the Beast might not be too much boot. Even if the Beast is a little advance for you if it fits the best you probably are better off with it than another model. (I easily could have used the W12 myself but went with the Beast because of fit.)

PS - Sorry if I hurt your feelings. When you're in Montana I'll buy you a beer.
post #10 of 17
Thread Starter 
I wouldn't swear to it, but I think that the W line of Nordica boots is now the Beast line. I was just on the Nordica website, and couldn't find the W series. (I currently ski on the W8).

One consideration in shopping for boots is that I weigh 230 lbs, which means I need a pretty tough boot.

I think my injured feelings will heal...
post #11 of 17
After looking at the site it looks like they did some minor improvements to the W line and called them Beast boots. Sorry about the confusion. The Beast 12 has the same flex range (80-90) as the old W12. In that case the Icon is a little higher performance boot but not necessarily one with better features.
post #12 of 17
Thread Starter 
Well, one thing I'm sure of is that the Icons are ugly. I don't know why any boot maker would use such an ugly shade of orange.
post #13 of 17
Ugly products get noticed on the hill! Lange (think pink!) and Volkl (ditto!) pioneered this. Some might suggest that the Tecnica Icon is a considerably narrower boot than a Nordica Beast. Perhaps the shape of your foot should play a role in your selection.

jl
post #14 of 17
Thread Starter 
The Technica is definitely a tighter fit.

I seem to have a bit of an unusual foot/ankle/calf size issue that is making it hard to get a boot to fit. I'll keep trying on boots until I find something that works.
post #15 of 17
FWIT_ I have the ugly Icons (Alu), I like the ugly orange. It's a great boot. Is the Icon you are looking at have the HF? If so, it would be hard for you to make a decision regarding comfort and fit without having the liner molded to your foot.
post #16 of 17
Thread Starter 
I'm not sure if the liner is heat molded or not. How big of a difference would that make? The Beast salesman told me that that boot has a heat molded liner, and that the fit would change by about 30% (whatever that translates to). If a boot is comfortable, but a bit tight, will the change that comes from heat molded liner make it wearable?
post #17 of 17
30 percent? 30 percent of what?

Thats silly.

The only way to find out if it makes a real difference is to try it. It is preferable to have the liners heated in a convection oven for the full effect rather than the typical forced air.
-Garrett
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