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so I know the new skis dont need a lot of forward pressure to bend - they just need to be layed over on edge - which has prompted boot makers to make softer "user friendly" boots. however, does anyone else agree with me that the new boots on the market feel uncommonly noodly and offer a poor wrap? my buddy and I tried on the new diablo magnesium boots and were surprised at how soft they were (espescially since they are tecnica's number 1 boot). I felt like they fit loose no matter how tight I cranked them down, and skiing a softer boot felt very washed out. Id be more comfortable any day on lange L10s (and im still pissssssed lange dropped the L10 and moved to the Comp series... sheer incompetence) or a plug than any of the "high-performance/race" boots out today.

bottom line:: the new softer boots ski sheisty compared to the boots of old. anyone agree with me?
post #2 of 8
if you liked the L10 just try the 130, the shells inner last is pretty much the same as the the old L series with a little more room in the toe box. plus you can always by the plug pm me if there are no dealers near you.
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waxman, I was going to ask you about something else, but your PM is turned off.
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it's back on, sorry didn't know
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I am strongly considering going out and buying new much softer boots for alpine than I currently have. Noodles as you say. I currently have Rossi Race 1's and now ski in such a way that I do not utilize the stiffness of the boots very much. I have skied with them completely unbuckled for at least the last two years.

Last year I skied almost exclusively on telemark gear because of comfort and performance. In fact, I don't buckle the top buckles on my telemark boots either.

The difference for me has been in making sure the bindings are mounted so that the sweet spot of the ski is directly under the ball of my feet. Once I do this I can easily utiilize the design of the skis with very little need for contact with the shins on the tongue of my boots.
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Originally Posted by mad323
so I know the new skis dont need a lot of forward pressure to bend - they just need to be layed over on edge - which has prompted boot makers to make softer "user friendly" boots. however, does anyone else agree with me that the new boots on the market feel uncommonly noodly and offer a poor wrap? my buddy and I tried on the new diablo magnesium boots and were surprised at how soft they were (espescially since they are tecnica's number 1 boot). I felt like they fit loose no matter how tight I cranked them down, and skiing a softer boot felt very washed out. Id be more comfortable any day on lange L10s (and im still pissssssed lange dropped the L10 and moved to the Comp series... sheer incompetence) or a plug than any of the "high-performance/race" boots out today.

bottom line:: the new softer boots ski sheisty compared to the boots of old. anyone agree with me?
The new boots are definalty softer, but if you goto a specialty shop (at the base of a resort) or to someonewho is knowledgable, you can find what you are looking for
For example,the diablo magnesium is not Tecnica's top of the line boot, the diablo pro 130 is. This boot is a nofrills softer flexing version of their world cup plug boot (also available if you have point low enough to warrent distribution)
The point is, if you look hard enough you can find something stiff enough.
good luck
post #7 of 8
Thread Starter 
i know there are plug boots available (even so the plug boots of today are softer than they were 5 years ago) the diablo race pro is even softer than tecnicas last plug (icon xt) which i have with a 24 cuff. i was commenting on the general trend leading to sub par boots that are marketed as being more technologically advanced
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I had some Lowa men's "soft" race boots on my first pair of shaped skis. Then I was in some ladies X-Wave 9s, and was not happy with their spongeyness. Now I'm in the ladies' atomic widebody B9s, and again, they are very soft and vague. However, last week when a friend tightened the power strap to the max, I found a bit more response from the skis, like in the old days. I'll be doing that from now on.
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