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Scott vs Giro helmets

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 
Scott Biomex or Giro-9 (Fuse)?
1.As i never had helmet before (now i plan to go in one competition and wearing it is mandatory) i even dont know what happens if you have accident with the helmet. In other sports there are two variants: Some helmets should be replaced and others can endure more than one hit on their surface. To which category belong the helmets above? And how many years they can be used before the sun weakens their surface material?
2.And just one last question (As i dont want to spam with another thread) do you have some experience with the Dainesse back-protectors. I plan to order one very simple - Shield (6 or 7) via inet, I am very tall but thin, will it be better to order XL or L?
post #2 of 12
Hi Miro,
The best helmet to go for is the one which fits you the best, and is most comfortable. Skiing helmets are supposed to be replaced after any impact on them, they are similar to cycling ones.
post #3 of 12

Giro helmets are no good after a collision. I am not sure about Scott. Marker makes at least one model that is useable after impact and there are some manufacturers that make re-usable helmets but they are heavy and less comfortable.
post #4 of 12
I have a Giro Nine (older model), my fiance just picked up a Leedom something-or-other. Hers has a much thicker plastic shell that looks like it could take a few knocks. My Giro is much more like a bicycle helmet, perhaps a little thicker plastic, but not much. Haven't crashed hard on it yet though. (Knock on wood. or trees. or lift posts...)
post #5 of 12
There's some web site that has reviews of helmuts, though I don't know the url off hand. Obviously, finding a helmut that is the right shape to fit your head is the first step. The Giro 9 seems to be well liked and seems to fit lots of heads. I believe that Leedom is the only company (unless someone else has just released something) that meets the more stringent Schnell (SP) safety standards--might offer a bit more protection.
post #6 of 12
I think the website to which you refer is the mysteriously-named skihelmets.com

There are a few helmets which at least advertise that they can be reused after a significant impact. This strikes me as a bit strange ... I had thought that the way a helmet works in a significant impact is that it dissipates the impact by having it deform the foam inside the helmet. Then again, what do I know?

I think the standard (one of 'em) is "Snell." The "schnell" standard would, presumably, have to do with how aerodynamic the helmet is.

Most of the typical helmets out there do seem to have a pretty minimal shell: really an almost cosmetic layer on top of the foam. Some race helmets have a considerably harder shell.
post #7 of 12
You're right, it's Snell not schnell -- must have watched to much Hogan's Heros as a kid, but I'm quite sure it's a more stringent safety standard.
post #8 of 12
I had thought that the way a helmet works in a significant impact is that it dissipates the impact by having it deform the foam inside the helmet. Then again, what do I know?
That is correct, however not all ski helmets are made of solid foam. Marker's M3, for instance, is made of a foam which flows freely.

Ski or Skiing also reviewed helmets last year and they listed a few which were multi-impact, can't recall them off hand though.
post #9 of 12
ummm... sheepishly, I rode my Giro 9 fullspeed+ into a tree last year. I quasi-skiied away (wasn't pretty) and later discovered pretty significant inner ear trauma from the impact. The helmet stayed visibly intact but I'll never know if it should have mitigated the force or if it functioned adequately/as advertised. When I went to trade it in using Giro's 1/2 price replacement, I discovered receipts, store information, return of the damaged helmet and other paperwork required prerequisitely for the offer. Too much hassle, besides, I like my trophy. Prominantly displayed, I'm hoping it will subliminally confer caution this year. My intentions are to replace it with the Giro Fuse with ipod hook-up.
post #10 of 12
Thread Starter 
for the comparison: at skihelmets.com Giro 9 is rated better than Fuse... and again there is no word about Scott although in my catalog is said that Scott Biomex has won the 2004 european ski award ...
post #11 of 12

The best helmet is the one that fits you the best all other things being equal. I have the Fuse which fit me better than the "9". Marker didn't fit at all, nor did Boeri. I like the Fuse's venting system, which you can open/close on the fly. I am a little suspicious of skihelmets.com since they do not rate all the helmets out there. Perhaps it is more of a business enterprise than a public service one?
post #12 of 12
The skihelmet.com site is pretty good. I prefer the fuse. I have a hard to fit head and it was the most comfortabel/best fit. I don't really know if there is a difference between the fuse and the 9, I thought it was just the vents. I do like the profile of the fuse. Good visibility, good hearing ability and light.
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