Am currently skiing on the Crossmax 10, which I love. Very versatile, the only ski that I bother to bring with me. Had a whole quiver before, but found that I don't need them anymore. Edge grip is decent if they're tuned properly, probably better than the Xscream, my previous ski, which I also liked, but because of the Pilot system, I think I like the Crossmax better. I find that the Crossmax is kind of a do it all ski, good at everything, but not outstanding in any one area. Also tried the Scream Pilot 10, which I thought had better grip on ice that either the Scream or the Crossmax. I also had a pair of Volkl Vertigo Motions that I had a problem with, and ended up returning them to Volkl for a full refund. If you're looking for a real ice skate, forget the Volkls and check out the Head all mountain skis. The ones that I tried with the new Intelligence system have phenomenal edge grip, and the pair I tried didn't feel like they had been tuned in a while. I think that the overal quality of the Head skis is better than either the Salomon or the Volkls for that matter.