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College Grad looking for "that special place".

post #1 of 41
Thread Starter 
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As sad as it is, it is time for me to leave this place I love so much (I know mom, I'm surprised I'm graduating too). That being said, I have about 8 months until graduation and the reality is already poking me in the eyes and making me tear.

As an extremely avid skier...wait, wait. As an extremely ADDICTED skier I would like to pose the question that we have battered like a rented mule; where does one live!? I have been truly blessed with a college degree, now I'm more blessed with the option (literally) to live wherever I want (in the U.S., not leaving this country....yet.)

Get to the point: My list got so large, so fast it made my head spin like a top.

So the condensed version of my list is as follows:

Salt Lake City, UT
Portland, OR
Seattle, WA
Kennewick, Pasco, Richland, WA (Tri-cities)
Kent, WA
**Bellingham, WA (My top pick but am having trouble finding a job)
Bozeman, MT
Missoula, MT

If anyone would like to chime in and say "man, you're crazy for wanting to live in {insert crappy city here}," please don't hesitate.

And as one who is sincerely dedicated in finding an enjoyable position, if you might have any promising leads at any of the above locations in an Operations Management type of field, I know of a good candidate .

Thanks for Any help!
post #2 of 41
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Originally Posted by ktrubin
All-

So the condensed version of my list is as follows:

Salt Lake City, UT
Portland, OR
Seattle, WA
Kennewick, Pasco, Richland, WA (Tri-cities)
Kent, WA
**Bellingham, WA (My top pick but am having trouble finding a job)
Bozeman, MT
Missoula, MT
First, congrats! Well, in advance anyhow.

Second, why the heavy focus on the PNW? Friends or family in the area, or is your line of work in demand there? It's just that most people asking this same Q would generally focus on the Rockies. I know zero about the PNW so no comment.

Utah, the mormon thing is an annoyance for me. The snow however, is unrivaled. Judgment call.

If I could find work in Bozeman, that'd be pick #1 for me.

Why not Missoula? There are some rather unsavory individuals in residence. And Snow Bowl isn't nearly as cool as Bridger. Too far from Big Sky too.
post #3 of 41
What are you getting your degree in and from which college?
post #4 of 41
Congrats.

Your being a recent college grad with Ops Research, I know that we hire folks like that to do Independent Cost Estimates (we have a bunch of notable SCEA people here - SCEA=Society for Cost Estimating and Analysis) for the Gov't (I work for a contractor, and our people do that stuff for the Gov't). I don't do that kind of stuff, but I know people who do, and hiring managers who hire your kind.

The pay is good, but I don't see Northern VA on your list of top picks (nor is it on mine, but alas, here I am ).

If you are so inclined, send me a PM.

-John
post #5 of 41
First off, understand that where you choose to live right after college can have greater implications for your long term future than you think. Chances are, you will start to settle down and begin a family soon thereafter, which can lead to roots so deep, you may have a hard time breaking away from them. This could be a life altering decision (or not). Choose wisely.

I moved back to Utah after ten years away (went to college there - Go Utes!) because I could not stand living in a large city anymore. For me, a resort town near a larger city was mandatory due to work/travel constraints. No other place that I know of offers a better resort/ski/professional work experience than Park City. Others may complain about the mormon thing, but that’s why I live in "Sin City" where there is little influence on normal people (non-LDS).


Powdr
post #6 of 41
PNW instead of the rockies? Not touching that one. There are enough people moving here.

Tri-cities: Not so nice. Not close to skiing, mtb or hiking; Not so close to anything, for that matter; English is a minority language; economically challenged; crime problems.

Bellingham: Better. Ocean and whitewater kayaking, fishing, hiking, skiing; probably the best backcountry access in the lower 48; Close to Vancouver; College town. Downsides: Hard to find jobs; must like gray skies in winter;

Seattle: Some like it, some don't. Traffic sucks; lots of crime; traffic really really sucks; Cost of living will blow you away. It's a big city. On the other hand, good access to hiking, biking, skiing; nightlife; culture.

Kent: Suburb of Seattle. Big gang problems. Trashy. You can do better.
post #7 of 41
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Originally Posted by ktrubin
If anyone would like to chime in and say
"man, you're crazy for wanting to live in Kent."

Not so sure about Bellingham or the Tri-Cities, either, but I guess it all depends on what sort of city you're looking for. Presumably you like Bellingham because it's close to Mt. Baker and (reasonably) close to Whistler. Kent is only marginally closer to any place you'd want to go than Seattle or any of a number of nicer suburbs. While they're both in the same state, Seattle and the Tri-Cities don't have a ton in common other than that, I don't think.

Seattle is a largish city, very cosmopolitan, but very expensive when you weigh typical local white-collar earnings against the cost of housing and the cost of living generally.
post #8 of 41
I'll throw in another city: Spokane. Its close to Mt. Spokane, Silver Mountain and Schweitzer but better yet, its only a few hours from Red Mountain.
post #9 of 41

Spokane

And is also within easy reach of Whitewater, Fernie, (and with a couple of hours more driving)Castle, Panorama, Kicking Horse, Louise, and Sunshine.
post #10 of 41
Downside is - it's still Spokane. Better than Kent or Tri-Cities, but seriously lacking in the "vibe" department. Sort of like someone took Topeka and stuck in a good location.
post #11 of 41
Thread Starter 

This is awesome!

Cool, I couldn't ask for anything more:

Kent= Out
Tri Cities= Out
Sea-battle (err...seattle)= Out
Spokane= In

Bellingham has been my endless job search for the last 3 months. It's been a challenge! Remember, the quote of the day is; any lead is a good one!

You guys/gails rule!

Thanks!
post #12 of 41
Interesting how aspiring college grads and aspiring retirees have common issues about picking a place to live. Check out these threads: http://forums.epicski.com/showthread...ght=retirement
http://forums.epicski.com/showthread...ght=retirement
Keep in mind that picking a larger metro area near good skiing will give you more job options.
post #13 of 41
Ever considered Eugene Oregon? I was there a couple of weeks ago for the first time and I thought it was really cool. If you like Houghton/Hancock, Eugene has the same feel, but with 100,000 people.
Remember one thing..... pick a place that has a smaller, local hill (with night skiing) in addition to the mountains. I can't count the number of friends who moved to Colorado because they love skiing, and now ski 10 days a year or less. Remember, you are going to have a pesky job that sometimes gets in the way of skiing.
How about Jackson, WY? Great place if you can find a (high paying) Job. One of my buddies lives in Glenwood Springs, Co. That's a cool town too. Sunlight ski area is right there, and its like a half hour to Aspen and an hour to Vail.
post #14 of 41
I am surprised Reno hasn't been mentioned here. ...Living in a progressive desert enviroment throughout the year, with the highest density of ski areas on the continent just over the horizon, has to have some 'lure' to it. ..And then add in the fact that Reno is 'action central' when you compare it to other ski centers!

Go Figure?
post #15 of 41
Thread Starter 
While has came up in my mind, I quickly ruled it out. I cannot stand the Casinos, endless dirt....ughhh.. Reno just wasn't a place I liked very much. I had a friend that lived in Carson, I went to a wedding there. It just wasn't my thing. Good suggestion, but not the place for me.

Jackson is a crapshoot. I'm going to check into Eugene, I've never done any research on it before. Hoping for the best case scenario!
post #16 of 41
One place that has captured my imagination is Bend Oregon. A real town, skiing close, all the other outdoor activities, sunshine, a river, an airport, affordable housing. Have no idea about the job market. If my husband did not own his own business here in Denver we would have strongly considered moving there ourselves.
post #17 of 41
Portland OR is a good place to live and work (I went there for 6 weeks on an assignment and ended up staying 3 years!) but be warned the skiing is not hugely challenging at Mount Hood, more cruising. The local economy has been struggling in the last couple of years but should be starting to improve.

Mount Bachelor is certainly more fun to ski but it is a good 3 hour drive from Portland in winter. As Kima suggested, Bend is a cool place and gives easy access to Bachelor as well as all sorts of other activities. It is growing fast and could offer some opportunities.
post #18 of 41
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Originally Posted by xdog1
If I could find work in Bozeman, that'd be pick #1 for me.

Why not Missoula? There are some rather unsavory individuals in residence. And Snow Bowl isn't nearly as cool as Bridger. Too far from Big Sky too.
Yah, Bozo is much better. and that unsavory Missoula guy will hunt you down and harrass you for moving there.

Besides, Snowbowl has too many weird fall lines and the tree skiing sux.
post #19 of 41
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Originally Posted by ktrubin
Spokane= In

Thanks!
go Spo-Compton! crackheads and tweakers. lots of red neon. ugly strip malls for miles on the North side.

but the DH mtb riding on Mt Spokane and Beacon Hill is superb!
post #20 of 41
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Originally Posted by Kima
One place that has captured my imagination is Bend Oregon. A real town, skiing close, all the other outdoor activities, sunshine, a river, an airport, affordable housing. Have no idea about the job market. If my husband did not own his own business here in Denver we would have strongly considered moving there ourselves.
Kima, Bendover was "discovered" in the late 80s and should have all the McBoulder things that any McBoulderite would love.
post #21 of 41
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Originally Posted by gonzostrike
Kima, Bendover was "discovered" in the late 80s and should have all the McBoulder things that any McBoulderite would love.
Guess I better hurry then :
post #22 of 41
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Originally Posted by gonzostrike
Kima, Bendover was "discovered" in the late 80s and should have all the McBoulder things that any McBoulderite would love.
Then skip Bend and move 20 miles up the road to Sisters and ski Hoodoo Bowl.
post #23 of 41
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Originally Posted by Bill Emmett
Then skip Bend and move 20 miles up the road to Sisters and ski Hoodoo Bowl.
Yah gotta love any mountain who's motto is "Deep, steep and cheap."
post #24 of 41
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Originally Posted by Kima
Guess I better hurry then :
doesn't it suck? just when a place looks savory, it become UNsavory. seems the inescapable way of things, but I don't have to like it, do I?

British Columbia is the place.
post #25 of 41
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Originally Posted by Rio
Yah gotta love any mountain who's motto is "Deep, steep and cheap."
I know a few places on the interior BC circuit that COULD use that motto.
post #26 of 41
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Originally Posted by gonzostrike
doesn't it suck? just when a place looks savory, it become UNsavory. seems the inescapable way of things, but I don't have to like it, do I?

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Nope unfortunately it is hard to lock the door behind you. Really have no idea where we will end up. I lived so many different places and Colorado had always felt like home to me. Lately though, I have felt the urge to move on. Just a fantasy at this stage, luckily though Colorado is not a bad place to be.
post #27 of 41
Ok put everything on hold and ski 100+ days a year someplace that has some of the best skiing in North America. Someplace like Jackson Hole. Everybody goes to some western ski resort and says ok I will get a job on the ski resort and get a free pass and then pay a lot of money for housing. WRONG move! At the end you will loose money. The RGHT move. Work for a hotel that is close enough for ski-in/ski-out that pays you, gives you a free room, and you get a big deduction on a season pass. This is the right move. In the end you will break even and be able to continue to ski for years. The reason the season pass is cost a lot less then the housing in most cases.
Location is important because you want a place that has public transportation so you don't need a car (e.g JH) .

Second choice is be a ski instructor at an upscale resort and get big tips. Working at what you love doing for enjoyment is not something I recommend.
post #28 of 41
Gold Miners Daughter-Alta is one such place.
post #29 of 41
Ever been to Spokane? Yuck!! :

My husband and I are looking for somewhere to move out West once his last kid is out of our house (he's 15, so we're counting down pretty fast! ). Anyway, we went to Red Mountain in Feb., flew into Spokane, and immediately decided we did NOT want to live there.

Right now Salt Lake City/Park City is on our list. We're planning to go to Big Sky this winter to check out Bozeman.

Thatsagirl
post #30 of 41
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Originally Posted by gonzostrike
Yah, Bozo is much better. and that unsavory Missoula guy will hunt you down and harrass you for moving there.

Besides, Snowbowl has too many weird fall lines and the tree skiing sux.
That Unsavory Misso guy cant even be tracked down when you are there!
with his phone number,
even with friends of his.
he put the Cluse in recluse
Been to both & like Bozone better.
both are full of "lifestyle" folks who moved there for the surroundings & are not liked by the old time locals.

I have lived in SLC off and on for 20 years with breaks in CA & CO & keep coming back.

I love it & wish people would explain the "mormon thing"
if you cant overcome the liquor laws you arent really trying, living in a Conservative ( voting wise) can be a drag but we aint alone & I doubt i would raise kids in the suburbs, but fresh outta college I dout you can find a better Job market with the outdoor goods so near by.
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