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Copper/Winter Park coverage over Thanksgiving

post #1 of 14
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I have a couple of friends who want to come over to CO to ski at Copper and/or WP over Thanksgiving. Since I just moved to Denver in 2003 and did all my skiing at Loveland (my first time on skis), I have no idea of what the early season coverage is like at Copper or WP.

Specifically, is it only going to be greens, or maybe some blues open? Or would most blues be open by then? Any blacks open by then? What about the bowls, e.g. Parsenn Bowl at MJ, or the bowls at Copper?

I remember last year at Loveland around Thanksgiving all the greens were open, about 75% of the blues were open, and none of the blacks were open until much later. When we went to Copper during x-mas, the backside was still not open yet.

Obviously this year's snowfall maybe completely unlike any previous year, but any prior-year experiences that might help in their decision?

Thanks in advance.

-SyF
post #2 of 14

not exactly whatcha want BUT

http://rockymountainscenery.com/picoweek.html

CHECK THE CLICK HERE (to view previous photos, etc.), you'll get a veritable photo-diary of the hills in that area over the course of the past...well, however far back it goes.

There is no way of knowing how conditions will be. These pics MIGHT give you some idea, though, of what is possible.

11/25/01: http://rockymountainscenery.com/picweek/112501.jpg

11/23/03: http://rockymountainscenery.com/picw03/112303.jpg
post #3 of 14
Mother Nature will have the final say but here is the general progression at Copper.

First, Ptarmigan (blue) off the Excelerator lift will open-depending on how the fall has gone Mein Vein may be open allowing you to ski to the bottom otherwise to ski Ptarmigan you will upload and download the American Eagle. Copperopolis, also off the Excelerator will be reserved for paid race training. Next Andy's Encore (blue) down to the cutover back to Solitude and the Excelerator will probably open. Weather permitting they will also open the small beginners lift at the base of Copper Village.

The next progression would be to get the American Flyer open on High Point (green).

The blue runs of Timberline Express are all natural snow dependent.

Having any bowls open will depend on major early season dumps. Even if you get dumps snow stability in the bowls would probably limit their opening.

If we are lucky Copper will have been open 3 and a half weeks at Thanksgiving so don't expect a lot of coverage.

Also, I saw a forcast saying October and November are projected to be fairly dry which would be the norm.
post #4 of 14
By the way, don't be scared by the 11/23 picture, it was taken in June.
post #5 of 14
This is a wonderful websight! Thanks for posting it, ryan.
post #6 of 14
PSIA goes to Copper for Team Training at the end of October-beginning of November, and has done so for AGES, which means it has the most reliable early-season conditions in the continental U.S.
post #7 of 14
The only problem with Copper at Thanksgiving, is far too many people on a limited amount of terrain that has been opened. Prior to Thanksgiving, there are race teams sharing the open runs with the public. There are no courses, but they are still skiing very fast in with the intermediate skiers. If you go there, just be aware that it is early season and there are shakey skiers and racers around.

Rick
post #8 of 14
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Originally Posted by nolo
PSIA goes to Copper for Team Training at the end of October-beginning of November, and has done so for AGES, which means it has the most reliable early-season conditions in the continental U.S.
I think Mike Wilson, Mike M, and Bob Barnes (all current or former Copper instructors) would agree with me that Loveland is the best bet early season.

Loveland will typically have the best conditions in the area up to Thanksgiving. For the past five years I've spent Thanksgiving in Breck and made the drive to ski Loveland. It's forty minutes max. The snow is great and there will be very few folks.

There will also be a great many national teams in the area and it's fun to watch those guys ski.
post #9 of 14
What Nolo says is basicly true (for the past few years the teams have met at Breck but are returning to Copper this year), but the terrain that is skiied on is prepared for paying race camps and generally closed to the public.

For the most reliable early season skiing go to Wolf Creek. It generally opens the first week of November though two of the last three years were open on Halloween. It is all natural snow, generally a minimum of three feet and most often at least four. The entier mountain is open by thanksgiving somewhere around 75% of the time.
post #10 of 14
Rusty,

Have to agree Loveland tends to have very good early season conditions-that being said they are still early season conditions. Being on the east side of the divide they can catch upslope storms that don't make it over into Summit County.

The kicker this season may be A-Basin. I hear they plan to crank their snowmaking much more than they did last year during its inaugural season.

BB said he wants to shoot some video as soon as somebody opens-ready?

On the greener side, RG, I'm heading back to Florida Dec 1 (assuming they survive hurricane season) for my final tests and interviews with the PGA to complete my membership requirements.

TB, how has life in the saddle been this summer?
post #11 of 14
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Rusty,


BB said he wants to shoot some video as soon as somebody opens-ready?
Ready....you bet.

I spoke to him a few days ago and he is lusting for some new $5k HDTV digital video cam.

My wife would shoot me.
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Ready....you bet.

I spoke to him a few days ago and he is lusting for some new $5k HDTV digital video cam.

My wife would shoot me.
Susan might shoot him too!!
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Susan might shoot him too!!
Considering Susan is working at Zales, she may not!
post #14 of 14
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Originally Posted by Lisamarie
Considering Susan is working at Zales, she may not!
Does that mean free samples for the Bears?
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